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Y23 - D1109 - EP166 - Copeland's Corner (Reed & Proops)
Host Brian Copeland: [00:00:00] Hello again. This is Brian Copeland talking. Welcome to another edition of Copeland's Corner. If all goes well, we'll be joined a little bit by a distinguished panel of comics. And we'll talk about some of the news of the week. Uh, just real quick. Uh, this is recorded on Wednesday and we drop on Thursday.
So last night, Tuesday night. Uh, the Democrats had a big night in the off year election, pretty much anywhere that abortion rights and reproductive rights were on the ballot, Democrats won. Uh, Ohio, despite all of the dirty tricks that the GOP tried in order to keep people from voting, to try to keep, uh, uh, uh, measure off the ballot, they were able to codify abortion rights.
The state constitution, uh, in, uh, in Virginia, Glenn Yonkin, uh, the, uh, the governor of that state, uh, has made it clear that he [00:01:00] would sign a 15 week ban on abortion. So you couldn't get one after 15 weeks. So as a result of that, uh, the. Legislature, the, the lower house legislature flipped from a Republican Democrat, and they increased their majority Democrats increased their majority in, uh, in the higher house.
So, um, this is a winning thing for, for the, uh, for the Democrats and a losing issue for the Republicans. And they are doing everything they can to try to, uh, make abortion illegal. Restrict reproductive rights, but they don't want to talk about it to the voters. And the fact of the matter is when you look at the polling, it's like 70 percent of Americans are opposed to the overturning of Roe v.
Wade, 70 percent of Americans think that women should have the right to decide what's going to happen with their own bodies. So we'll see how this shakes out as far as 2024 is concerned. But in some places last night, if there was a measure on the ballot that had to do with abortion, or there was [00:02:00] a hardcore anti choice candidate who was running as the Republican standard bearer, pretty much up and down the line on that ballot, Democrats won.
So again, we'll see how this shakes out in 2024.
This is the part of the podcast we call headliners on the headlines. Joining me this week, Greg Proops, whose line is it anyway, Don Reed from pretty much everything, uh, joining us this week. Uh, I'm sorry, you Greg, we were talking about the air. You're you're in Austin and you were saying that it's, it's hot and it's, it's conservative.
I thought Austin was supposed to be like the blue spot in a red state.
Greg Proops: Well, yeah, I think Austin is the blue spot in Texas. And, um, what's ironic, of course, is that the governor and the AG are here and, [00:03:00] uh, and the lieutenant governor who are as right of old fascist as exist in America. No, my problem with Texas is everybody's nice.
This can be. I really enjoy it here. And then every white person you look at, you know, they voted for Trump. And I'm sorry, but that's how I feel on the road, man. You know, I, I get on the road and I, the people are nice as can be. I prefer the Southwest and the South to the Midwest. I'll be honest. I'm not, I'm nothing against the Midwest.
I, I think a few days in Iowa is enough really to last you a while.
Host Brian Copeland: I used to play the laugh stop. I used to a stop in, uh, in, in, in fact, I did an interview with Renee Zellweger years ago, and she kept saying to me, I know you. Where do I know you from? I know you, and I just, I don't, you know, this is all she'd done was Jerry McGuire.
So I kinda like, blew her off. Got . No. Then she comes back. I did. It was like, it was like we, we had Meryl Streep on and they were doing a movie together, and in order to get Meryl Streep, we had to take Renee Zellweger, you know, what industry was. And she kept going, I know you, I know you. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she goes [00:04:00] back and goes, I know where I know you from when I was in college. I used to come and watch you play the. The last stop in Austin. Oh wow. See,
Greg Proops: and that made, so she go to U of a A of Texas, whatever it's
Host Brian Copeland: called here. Yeah, yeah. Apparently. Apparently. So I
Greg Proops: did not know that. I thought she was from Texas.
But isn't she Finnish
Host Brian Copeland: that I'm, I'm
Greg Proops: not sure, but I believe her mother is. Anyway. Yeah. That's really cool that Renee is thatwe you remembered you from the club. My greatest person that remembered me ever from a club. Stand up with Shirley Manson from garbage. I met her at a party once and she went, I used to go see you.
And I didn't put a festival because she's from Aberdeen. And I was like, I love you. Oh, my God. I'm not much older than her. I'm
Host Brian Copeland: curious. I'll, I'll put this out. I'll put this out to both of you. Have you ever met anyone, uh, at a gig who was somebody really like despised or, or just, I mean, like, you know, like Trump's showing up to your gig and want to shake your hand backstage [00:05:00] afterwards, you know, cause we've all done some big gigs and I've been fortunate that no, there's been nobody like that, that I had to fake that, you know, that I had any more.
Has that happened to either one of you? It happened to me. Um,
Don Reed: At, uh, the tonight show, um, I was backstage and the Secret Service stopped me for a second and George W. Bush was coming into the building, not the city, but they give them lifetime security. And we walked back there and a photographer took his picture.
And, uh, he shook the photographer's hand and he turned to me to shake my hand, but I didn't want to make any quick moves.
Host Brian Copeland: And I walked off and
I
Don Reed: didn't vote for him anyway, so it was okay.
Host Brian Copeland: Is that happened to you, Greg?
Greg Proops: Uh, well, you know, I remember I have been a lot of friends who've met a lot of, uh, titanic Nazis over the years, and they've been nice and polite to them.
I, you know, you always ask yourself, what would I do in that [00:06:00] situation? Like if I met Trump or whatever, would I just tell you, obviously you're not going to tell people to, you know, go to hell or whatever the minute you meet them, cause it's, you know, you're in a social situation, uh, I'm trying to think of someone that I really disliked intensely.
Not particularly, I met a couple of stars who were really, almost every star ever has been so super nice to me, but Tilda Swinton was a gigantic bummer. Really? Really? I was doing a film festival event in Scotland, and I was hosted, the film, head of the film festival asked me to host, so I went in, but let's hear, you know, it was, uh.
I'll tell you what year it was. American Splendor with Paul Giamatti and Hope Davis, that Harvey J. Carr comic book movie. Anyway, here's Tilda Swinton. She came up on stage, and I went, hi, like this, and put my hand out, and she... No. Yes. And so I went like this in front of everyone. Oh, [00:07:00] and I almost, and I wished I'd done it now, of course, but it would have been horrible at the time.
Tilda. I said, hi, because I really did say hi. And
Host Brian Copeland: she just ignores you. All right. Now I'll tell you my experience like that was I, when I was touring with Smokey Robinson, part of, part of one of the tours we did was with Gladys Knight. It was, was an amazing, amazing show. It, it, we, we play something like 12 cities and we ended up at the, uh, at the universal amphitheater and so for 10 of those 12 Uh, shows that we did, I, the way it was, I would go on and do 20 and then Gladys Knight would go on and do, you know, 45 minutes, whatever.
And then Smokey would come on and do whatever he felt like doing. So I would stand backstage after, after my set and watch Smokey and Gladys Knight would stand right next to me, surrounded by her entourage. And she never acknowledged my existence. Oh no, really? I mean, literally she's standing next to me and never [00:08:00] acknowledged my existence.
that whole time. And then finally, I kind of like, you know, nudge one of the guys outside. And I said, hi, I'm this night. I'm the one that's been opening for you every night. And she just shook my hand coldly and said, hi, that was it. That was it. And that was 10. That was 10 shows in. That was 10 shows in. I love Gladys.
I do too. I do too. That was just weird. It, it was just like,
Greg Proops: right. I'd never, why not just go, Hey, I thought even if he didn't see you, hey, really funny. Yeah.
Host Brian Copeland: It's just, you know, you, you know, you never know what you're gonna get when you're working, when you're working with stars, you know, that's what they say.
Never meet your heroes. Never meet your heroes.
Greg Proops: Oh, I got some other ones, but I'm not gonna tell 'em. ,
Host Brian Copeland: I've got some too. I'll tell you
Greg Proops: off the air. Alright, I'll tell you one quick one. Canadian Kaku. inu. who opened for Ray Charles in Canada on a tour, right? Did like a couple weeks with him. And they made him come in and do his routine, right?
No profanity and, you know, family, blah, blah, blah. Um, so he said he got up, Ray Charles and Leonor are sitting there and did his 15 or whatever. And they [00:09:00] were like, fine, you're in. And Ray Charles went, come here, leave
Host Brian Copeland: the women alone. I got a story like that. Yeah, you do. I open for Ray Charles. I know who with too, I know this.
I tell you this story. Is this
the
Greg Proops: ju one? Oh, you know that story too? No, I know that huge. I can't remember what you told me. Oh, whole pen of women.
Host Brian Copeland: I'll just say Latinx senior. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, oh, this is about God. Well, my son's 28. My, my youngest boy's 28. And it was when, um, my, my, uh, ex-wife was pregnant with him.
And, uh, and the insurance wouldn't, for whatever reason, didn't cover it. And it was going to cost five grand that I had to pay in order to have this baby delivered. So I was William Morrison. My agent calls me and says, I got you a gig. I got your baby paid for. It's, uh, you're going to be opening for Julio Iglesias at Donald Trump's Taj Mahal in Atlantic city.
And it pays 10, 000 for three shows for 15 minutes each night. And I go, I, you know, I was getting like three, four, five. And why is it so [00:10:00] much? And he said, because nobody's in the audience speaks English.
Like Paul Rodriguez or somebody, I got it for you because I know you need the money. Just go ahead and do it. So I go and sure enough, it's all Puerto Rican, the whole audience and it was 15 minutes of no one listening. I mean, literally they're talking. No one's listening because they don't speak the language.
It was horrible. I had 15 minutes of material that ended up being done in five because there's no laughs. So I get that. It's, it's three nights in the second night. Um, I can introduce to, I didn't meet the whole deal, but it's just the first thing. Second night I, I, I meet him and I'm standing outside his dressing room and he's got chairs lined up their chairs lined up on both sides of his dressing room door.
And there are all these young bin bets, you know, with the short skirts and the, the, the, the, the, the chats I was hanging out, all of this stuff. And, and he would come out and go you and you, and they would go into the others would disperse. And so when I met him that night, um, I go, hi, Mr. [00:11:00] Iglesias, I'm your opening act.
I'm Brian Copeland. And he says, don't touch my girls.
Okay.
Don Reed: My
Host Brian Copeland: gut accent. Don't
Greg Proops: touch my ghost.
Host Brian Copeland: My
Greg Proops: what a creep.
Host Brian Copeland: All right. So let's, let's jump into it. Um, I'm actually, I'm gonna start with this. Um, the Bay area has, uh, reinstated mask orders and, uh, in healthcare settings. Um, I am just recovering from COVID. I had a last week, I don't know where I caught it. Um, I, I hope I, I was out doing a shoot for, uh, for a nonprofit on Halloween where I was doing like a man on the street thing, talking to people.
And I know now I was positive at that time. And I hope to God, I didn't get anybody sick. Uh, but I, uh, it was outside, so I'm hoping that's okay. Uh, then nobody gets sick, but I, I was down for about five, you know, the five days, six days, uh, right now [00:12:00] I've tested negative. I'm still staying at home for a couple of days afterwards.
Cause I'm still, you know, I'm a little stuffy, a little congested. Um, but here's, here's what it is. I'm curious about with you guys. Um, are you concerned about catching it now? Cause like I, I, I have it in all of my contracts that my audiences have to be masked. You know, I got a, I got a one year old baby granddaughter who I babysit and I do not want to bring her anything.
So I make sure that all of my audiences have to be masked. Now, are you guys concerned, uh, about, about catching something, especially you Greg, because you're playing, well, how big are the venues you guys are playing with the, whose line is it anyway, a tour?
Greg Proops: We play a pretty big venues, like, uh, you know, anywhere from 800 to, you know, 5700 to 2000.
So there's a lot of 1100, 1500 seaters and the masking stopped in, um, you know, the end of 2021 beginning. You know what I mean? When 2022 started, it was over everywhere. They like, they mask in the, in California and the West coast [00:13:00] and the Northeast. And, you know, of course, as you know, it never existed in Florida or Texas or anywhere like that.
It simply didn't exist. Democrats invented it in the lab in China. Um, but I wore a mask on the plane and, uh, I can't get the audience to mask because they just want. It's it's over now. Um, and, uh, I'm still concerned about getting it because I have lots of conditions. I'm 1000 and, uh. Also, I don't want to, like you said, Brian, 2 years ago, I did a New Year's week at San Francisco punchline and they were really good about it.
They tested everybody. They made everybody have a card. They made everybody test, you know, the staff and everything. But my worst fear was that I would get it and give it to the audience. You know what I mean? Yeah. They'd go, Oh, you, cause you remember DL Healy show and all them, all the fucking comics who went out and, and, you know, like, Oh, 40 people get COVID at Greg's show.
That's like, I just thought, Oh God, you know, so I'm still concerned about it. That it's real hard to get the world on that now. And now there's an even more, [00:14:00] I'm sure you've seen on social media. Idiots are still like, Hey, don't let them put the mask mandate back. Cause they're, you know, freedom and whatnot, like you guys.
Uh, so that's my answer. I, I wish I could have more control over it, but the venues that we're playing with, whose line, there's no way they're going to all of a sudden, but I see people with masks in the audience.
Host Brian Copeland: Those who choose to. Yeah. How about you, Don? I mean, because we're all playing places where there's no ventilation.
You got crowds that are packed in with no ventilation and people are breathing for, you know, for 2 hours, you know, you know, are you. Uh, concerned about, as I said, all like when I play the Marsha stuff, all, all the places where I'm doing shows, um, the, the people know when they buy their tickets, you gotta be masked.
You gotta be masked. I'm
Don Reed: still, um, presently, uh, aware, aware that, um, particularly, um, I was riding the train a lot, um, from the Bay area to LA, the Amtrak train. And there's [00:15:00] a lot of people who voted in a different direction on trains for some reason. Older folks are on there and, uh, I know they probably, some of them didn't even get vaccinated.
So I'm more careful there than I am in, uh, the Bay Area venues. Although I'm aware of at the end of shows, I'm very clear on more fist bumping than the hugging I used to do. Very aware that I'm, uh, wearing a mask when it gets super crowded. At the end of the show, when people are coming up that as well, but I saw something very interesting the other day.
You know, how you were a mask inside of a store, you leave and you let it hang like, you finally getting outside and you give the relief off that pressure on your ears to let the mass hang on 1 side. I saw a guy. Leave a store, and he took it off and let it hang. He had something in his right hand. So, while he was walking the wind blue.
The [00:16:00] mass off the guy spun in a circle, hooked the mass and put it back on his ear and kept walking, which I thought was very, very, very cool. Isn't that pretty cool? Pretty cool, right? Yeah. That was me. I did that. But nobody
Host Brian Copeland: was there. So I'm telling you guys right now. So you're telling us, you're bragging about it, like you were, like you were a gunslinger or something.
Well, you know, the red states, you know, you're talking about Iowa, the red states are just, it's a, it's a whole different world. Like I got a friend who, um, I visit in Scottsdale a couple of times a year. And I think I've told the story of the podcast before that, um, you know, I wear a mask, you know, basically I stay at a hotel about a mile from his house.
I get an Uber to his house. And cause you can't walk when it's 110 degrees outside. So I Uber over and stay with him all day. And then I Uber back to, to my hotel. So, so an Uber comes for me and I have my mask on. I mask everywhere there. Uh, if I'm out, uh, and so I get in the Uber with my mask on and the driver says, [00:17:00] you don't have to wear a mask in here.
You don't have to do that, man. I'm fine. I'm perfectly okay. My wife and I, we take our Ivermectin every day. Oh no, no, no.
We take our Ivermectin every day. Good luck in the Preakness.
So it's just rather than what the CDC says, I will take horse dewormer, you know, and, and, and that's, that's going to protect me from getting, it's just, I, I just, I feel, you know, he got so many folks who are brainwashed. You know, and that's the only, only word I can use to describe it is brainwashed. I mean, I'm looking, you see, see the polls that have come out in the last couple of days, that in five out of six battleground states, Trump is ahead of Biden, explain that to me.
Can you possibly explain that to me other than, than brainwashing? The guy's got 91 criminal indictments, 91 criminal charges against him for indictments [00:18:00] for trials that are coming up. So can you explain to me how and why, number one, why Biden would be behind number two, why does Biden have an approval rating that's only like in the thirties and they don't,
Don Reed: they don't believe it.
I don't think they believe it. I don't think they act. They actually think this falls in line with what he's saying. And it was trumped up charges that it's a witch hunt. They're really believing that, which is insane to me. That's
Greg Proops: that's all I mean, I don't know, Brian. I mean, I see these polls too, but I think the polls are skewed because a lot of times they really want the results they want.
Like, for instance, yesterday's election, which went. Completely Democrats way almost everywhere, except Mississippi. Don't worry, even in Mississippi, Brandon Presley did pretty well. But you may have noticed that the block people had to stand in line for 5, 7 hours, and they ran out of ballots. 5 times.
That's not a coincidence. That's that's old school, man. That's old school. No, it's what Fannie Lou Hamer. Put her life on the line [00:19:00] for, but I think the polls are skewed because I think whatever method they're using, they're always trying to push forward the narrative that Biden's unpopular. And last night, I think you saw the Biden's popular.
Nobody who voted against abortion in Ohio, and nobody who voted for Governor Bush in Kentucky is going to turn around and go, you know, I've been thinking about it. And I think if I vote for Trump, it'll really balance out what I just did. Um, on the other hand. There's no discounting white supremacy in this country ever, because we were born in it.
And it's something that white people are as proud of as if they'd raised it as a pony. You know what I mean? They just, they just can't let it, I'm telling you guys, but I mean, you're like, that I think is the driving force behind the media and the driving force behind, um, all these polls is they really want you to feel that.
And I don't think it's correct. I think Biden did really well last time. And I think, uh, Particularly you're talking about, uh, Pennsylvania, Nevada, [00:20:00] uh, uh, uh, Arizona, Arizona, which, which elected two democratic senators. And I'm my family's from Arizona to have two democratic senators from Arizona is lunacy.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Host Brian Copeland: So sure. Right. I mean,
Greg Proops: it can happen. So I don't think they're right. I don't think the polls are right. I understand your concern, but also last night made me feel pretty warm inside. Like Ohio, Oklahoma, Kansas, uh, uh, what are the other two? Oh, Montana all went pro choice, you know what I mean?
And those are rednecks, man. Those are rednecks. I
Don Reed: got a question. Um, how much, uh, along the lines of skewing, how much of this is there's no story if they don't skew. There's no story if you say, you know, if you look at the real numbers and where, and the proof is in pudding in terms of the blue that, uh, exceeded yesterday, um, [00:21:00] how much of this has to be, we don't have a headline.
We don't have a story that, Oh my God, there's a battle here. If we do
Host Brian Copeland: not, we've got to make it, they got to make it a horse race. They got to make it a horse race in order to, to, to get clicks and to, to get eyeballs to watching, watching it on television. Yeah. I mean, I guess it, it depends on who it is.
You're, you know, when, when these polls, it depends on who you're talking to, you know, if, if you were going to poll only in red states. And ask who you're voting for. Well, of course, it's going to come out one way. If you, if you're only going to pull in blue states, of course, it's going to come out one way.
So there are lots of ways that you can skew a poll, but I'm a, but these are legitimate, you know, the New York times and Gallup, these are legitimate polling organizations.
Greg Proops: Here's the notion too. Uh, and this is, you know, like purely anecdotal, but for instance, when Hillary ran before, you know, uh, it was decided that Obama was the nominee.
A lot of people who supported Hillary wouldn't say they did because if they were afraid to be [00:22:00] humiliated by their friends and family, and I think. A lot of places in the country, if you don't say you're going Trump, you know what I mean, like, you can't say it at work, you have to hide in the ballot box.
And I mean, in the voting booth, and then vote your conscience and stuff, you know, so I'm guessing there might be certain amount of that, but, uh, but I think what, uh, Don said is absolute. Someone tweeted today. The narrative won't die. No matter what facts are thrown at the narrative. Biden won in 2020 going away.
It wasn't even, you know, yeah, it was close over four states or whatever, but he, his electoral count was, you know, millions of Trump. The midterms did not go their way. Every special election that's been held in the last 2 years has absolutely not gone their way. New Jersey went back Democrat yesterday.
Virginia went back to Democrat after having a tidal wave of nonsense 2 years ago, um, the, the, the narrative that Biden's unpopular and that he [00:23:00] can't win is a narrative. The media just nothing was as good for them as 45 the chaos. Also. Yeah. Uh, everyone who owns a giant media corporation, how do I put this delicately?
It's not a warm, wonderful, caring human being who hears the sound of poor children crying and whose heart is moved. Yeah, they, uh, they, they, you know, do you remember when Stephen Miller's wife, I can't remember her name. You know, you remember Stephen Miller, the one. The psychopath, uh, he's, uh, what we call in Yiddish a Shonda for the glam and, uh, he, uh, he.
He, his wife said that, uh, someone took her down to the refugee camps to see all the children in cages, which people forgot that happened for 4 years. Sure. Did, um, and the half a million people that died under Trump and no 1 called him a genocidist. That [00:24:00] she took her down to see the children in cages and said, once you see these children in the cages, it'll really change your mind.
And her response was, I went and it didn't I thought, okay, you're being honest, but that's what we're dealing
Host Brian Copeland: with here. You know, remember when, when he separated children from their parents at the border. You know, who are crossing the border, you know, that there are still children who are still, they have no idea who they are.
I mean, all these years later, there are still children who are separated from their mom and dad and babies separated from that two year old, three year old separated from their parents at the border. And, uh, and they, they say the cruelty was really the point because they, they believe that'll be a deterrent from other people who were escaping warlords and gangs.
Greg Proops: I was going to say, nothing's going to deter you if there's a grenade launcher aimed at your
Host Brian Copeland: house. Exactly. Exactly. You know, so it's just, um, uh, Hillary Clinton was on the view this morning and, and she made a direct comparison between Trump and Hitler. She said during the first [00:25:00] term, you know, you look at all the things that he did in the first term and he hired people who he appointed people.
We thought would be with him and whatever it is, crazy guardrails.
They acted as guardrails and they, they, you know, had integrity and refused to do it. Even people that we vehemently disagree with politically, at least they said, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not going to be a party to this. Well, what's going to happen if he's reelected is he's only going to appoint people who have no moral compass whatsoever and will do whatever he tells them to do.
So she says that this is, you see this in banana republics and in third world countries where someone is elected in a. Free and fair election. And then once they get in, they try to get rid of elections so that they can stay in power. And that's exactly what's going to happen. She said, it really is democracy on the ballot.
Don Reed: They go all the way autocratic once they get it. So check this out. Here's the thing I have the most promise for that I'm aware of with my 28 [00:26:00] and 25 and involved in the music industry in a very solid fashion. Uh, in terms of returning one of my son, uh, creative consults for complex, um, magazine that covers a lot of hip hop, things of that nature.
There is a wave of rappers who never voted. In their lives or engage in politics now, and those folks have a huge amount of influence on other young people. I think we're going to see in numbers. We never expected young people who are going to follow the root of little baby. And some of these other people that I never voted before, but I'm voting now, this is really important.
They make a lot of fun of Kylie Jenner, Kylie Jenner. Some very clear and distinct things about ways of vote. She has, I think, I think a hundred million followers or something.
Host Brian Copeland: Those
Don Reed: young people are 18 plus. [00:27:00] 21 years old, 22 are listening. They might not even know the full impact of the issues, but they're willing to go, Oh, this is right.
They understand their friend is trans. That friend, you know, might need an abortion and they're going to go that way. So I think that's well, but we're not expecting that's going to show up in
Host Brian Copeland: mass. Well, Taylor Swift did the same thing, you know, Taylor Swift, uh, it's come out democratic and vote against the GOP.
And she tweeted for her followers to, uh, to go out and register to vote like two weeks ago. And it's record numbers. It's like 13, 000 a day. Send a 13, 000 young people who've never registered to vote before a day or registering because, because Taylor Swift told them to, so maybe it'll be the Jen's ears who save us.
Greg Proops: I think it's sensational. She did that. My only regret with her is that she didn't do it in 2016 because her parents basically talked her out of it. According to her, she said she wanted to support Hillary or, I mean, um, yeah, Hillary in 2016 and that [00:28:00] they are like. But honey, the rednecks, you know, leave the building and she, oh, okay.
And then she started to be more of a Democrat. It really, you know, Nina Simone said, an artist is supposed to reflect their times. And anytime anyone gives me the, and I'm sure you guys get this. Hey, why don't you stick to the comedy?
Host Brian Copeland: Shut up and dribble. Shut up and dribble.
Greg Proops: Patronizing, like, look, I pay taxes, bro, 1 and 2, I read the news, I'm real up on what's going on, um, so the whole idea that I'm not entitled to opinion because I'm a buffone, you know, and I admit it, I'm a vaudeville clown, but I'm still entitled to my goddamn opinion and, uh, and moreover, the public's entitled to my opinion as well.
Host Brian Copeland: Did you see that story that, um,
did you see that story that, um, Oh, who the hell is it? James Woods is suing [00:29:00] the DNC for ruining his career. He's been tweeting and spouting off just ridiculous right wing crazy ass stuff for, for, you know, four or five years now. And so nobody wants to hire him. And he says, that's the fault of the DNC.
Right? I love it in a part.
Greg Proops: I love the idea. One that right wing people aren't in show business. Hello. They own all the companies and a lot of the producers are and many of the performers are to secondly, there's more perverts and predators or as many and show businesses. There is maybe more because there's more, you know, grazing.
It's like a. The idea that you got that Jim's woods got singled out at the age of 74 or whatever, and that the DNC was Jamie Harrison took a call, you know. Yeah. You remember the guy from the way we were
click.
Host Brian Copeland: [00:30:00] And they all play victim Dean Cain who played Superman in, uh, in Lois and Clark. They're all victims, right? They're all victims. He's a victim of it. Uh, uh, Chachi. Um, has left California and moved to Florida because he just can't stand the liberalism in California anymore. And it's like, don't let the golden gate hit you in the ass on the way out.
I mean, that's pretty much what it is. I, I, I
Greg Proops: think, but he, I mean, I'm here in Austin, Rogan has a club here in Austin. He moved to Texas. Yeah. His show used to be in Los Angeles. He lived in LA for years. We all knew Joe when he lived in LA. It's like, yeah, you know, Uh, yeah,
Host Brian Copeland: I worked with the cobs back in the nineties in early 2000 and he was, it was doing brilliant political commentary.
I thought that's my guy. What the hell happened to him?
Greg Proops: He, I think he went for the big money, Brian, and that that in cell, um, kind of brotastic, they're not Nazis. They're like supplement taking left wing [00:31:00] Nazis. You know what I mean? As my wife always says, the horseshoe were Nazis and and Bernie bros meet, I mean, you know, like, I don't know that he's a Bernie bro, but like, There's this whole, uh, we're not allowed to be say what we want to say anything going on with him, like, he has an audience of several million people every day.
Yeah. And no one is telling him what not to say. So it's not that valid of a point. So his club here in Austin is like, Hey, I'm gonna get on foot can say what I'm fucking. I've never had anyone at any club. Tell me not to say anything. I've had the audience. Let me know they didn't appreciate it, but I've never had a club go about that George W.
Bush routine. It was a little harsh.
Host Brian Copeland: I've had a couple of clubs tell me and not to say that something I said in the show. That's it. Oh, yeah. And it
Greg Proops: was Oh, Vegas. Once the guy gave me a speech anyway. Yeah, people don't come here for fucking CNN. There's no fucking comedy, right? [00:32:00] Yeah, I got one of those kind of
Host Brian Copeland: fucking jokes.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's the speech that I got, you know, and it was a casino situation. It was a casino situation. All right. Someone did tell me
Greg Proops: at a casino. He was wearing an American flag tie. By the way, the guy who told me time, Greg, I know you're like a fanatic or whatever, but listen.
Don Reed: Um, not to go off tangent, but I remember a time when I was on the college circuit in round 9192 going to East college.
I was 1 of the few black guys doing a ton of colleges at the time. And I was in, um, I was in, uh, Kentucky. And I've been to a number of schools. A lot of times it was like, you know, the athletes in the back of the room that were black and the other 600 students were or white. And I had done a number of schools and I got to the next [00:33:00] school and at that time I was working squeaky, squeaky, squeaky, ridiculously, obnoxiously clean.
So, I was never even saying damn or hell and I got to the school and the woman said, so understand at the last school you were cussing. So, I want to let you know that we're not going to have any of that. I said. 1 billion percent. I cost 0. I cost 0. And I did at that time. I said, so I don't know what she said.
No, we heard someone call me from the previous. I said, who called you? Who called you? Well, I said, I want you to give me the name of the person who said I cuss at the last school, I think this might have something more to do with what I look like,
Greg Proops: um,
Don Reed: um, uh, have a good show. And she didn't say anything else.
But it's one of those moments of being spoken to before the performance that wasn't even real. She manufactured like this guy's black. He's probably going to cuss.
Host Brian Copeland: So if that were me and I, and [00:34:00] somebody had done that to me and I've been working clean, as soon as I hit the stage, I'd have dropped an F bomb.
The first word out of my mouth is, Hey, it's great to see you guys. It's good to be here. That's exactly what it was. I want to do on a tangent. You're talking about what it is you look like. I read an article in, uh, I want to say it was either the Atlantic or slate this morning that there are a number of African Americans who are leaving the country and going to moving to the Caribbean, moving to Europe because they say that there's nothing in America.
For them, um, you know, blacks are twice as likely to be killed by the police. Uh, African Americans make less money, uh, than whites do for comparable work. And, you know, we were always taught this, you know, by my parents, you know, I have to work twice as far to get hard to get half as far. So I worked twice as hard, but even that in a lot of cases is, is, is not enough.
And so there, you know, with the, with the, the, the maga extremism and everything else, they, uh, they're leaving a country. So do you think [00:35:00] that, that they're overreacting? You think it's an overreaction. Um,
Don Reed: I, I, I, I, well, I believe I'm, I have no intentions of leaving none whatsoever. So I would kind of say it is, but, um, some people I've been aware of on Instagram are doing it, uh, for a financial break as well.
Some people I know who work in it and in ways that way they could live anywhere are going to Belize and San Juan, Puerto Rico and some other spots. To live because they can live that way. And a dinner round for two people with cocktails is 30 bucks. And so they're making that move for that even happen, but that's it,
Greg Proops: you know, well, I mean, you know, I can understand the pressure, like, a couple of years ago.
I can't remember. Was it Missouri was listed as a place that's like, physically dangerous for black people to live and I have friends in Missouri that are black. And, uh, [00:36:00] um, it's like, I understand the impetus to want to go and in this country. Uh, because it's, it's always been so awful, but I would say that.
Maybe in the Caribbean, it's slightly different. Um, Europe's not exactly a wonderland of open mindedness as much as people. I love Europe and I go there all the time. Uh, but I, I, you know, Scandinavia is, uh, got some serious Nazi issues. Uh, almost every country in Europe. I mean, like for instance, look, what's going on in England now, these giant protests, uh, about Israel and whatnot.
And, uh, I lived in England for five years and. I mean, this is off the topic, but a little bit on the topic. It was the only place I've ever lived where in the newspaper on TV, they would call someone Jewish when describing them. So they go, uh, there was a talk show host in the morning named Vanessa felts in the old days in the 90s and they would call her Jewish talk show host.[00:37:00]
And so there any semitism has been bubbling under the surface. I don't know if you know, Jeremy Corbyn was the leader of their labor party. He finally resigned after he lost to Boris Johnson in an election. Mind you, they've had what 2 PM since him. I mean, yeah, Britain changes PM's like Italy now. Um, uh.
And he was a noted anti Semite, and he was driven from his party, and he's no longer a member of parliament, and he's no longer the head of the Labour Party, because his anti Semitism got out of hand. And it's just like, uh, so the idea that another country is going to be better, it'll be different. It'll be different.
Yeah, that the main thing about leaving America that I love is that it's not America, even in Canada, England, France, Italy, whatever, or the Caribbean, which is a fabulous, uh, you know, every country in the Caribbean is different too. I mean, the French countries are different than the English ones and the American ones are a little more trashy like America and, [00:38:00] you know, the colonial influence in all those places really dictates.
What's going on there, but I don't know, Brian, it's such a it takes you back to, like, Marcus Garvey. You know what I mean? And like, the whole idea that we make, uh, enslaved people build a country and then we treat them awful and then ask them to stay and make everything. Okay. You know, if it wasn't for black voters, this country would be in a deep fucking mess
Host Brian Copeland: if it weren't for black women voters, you know,
Greg Proops: who I go, you know, on my little podcast, my wife and I've been talking about it for years.
I always urge people to listen to other voices and by that, I mean, stop listening to your fucking idiotic friends. 1 and 2, um, black women made it through, uh, the 2008 election, the 2012 election, the 2016 election and the 2020 election [00:39:00] without being, they were subject to the same propaganda and lies that all of us were and black women were able to go, no, um, So, why is it that the Democrats have a messaging problem?
Always? It's because white people can't hear shit
Host Brian Copeland: and
Greg Proops: they won't listen to what black women when black women say this guy's a crook. I have to know this. The safety of my family depends on it. The safety of my livelihood depends on it. The safety of my world depends on. Compromising and voting for people that are going to do the least damage and sometimes they're good people like Joe Biden or, you know, Harris or, you know, or Barack Obama, who are admirable people with good intentions.
They really are. They're not creepy politician creeps.
Host Brian Copeland: Uh, go back to Alabama. I mean, go go back to that Senate race with Roy Moore. Who? Roy Moore. Remember Roy Moore? All that stuff came out about him and, and young girls. He hung on, waited for teenage girls and teenage girls and the whole [00:40:00] thing. And uh, and he was running against Doug Jones, you know, in Alabama to get elected as a Democrat, you really, you know, for a Republican lose for to a Democrat in Alabama, you really gotta mess up.
And, uh, and they say it was black women who got, who elected Doug Jones. Uh, because Roy Moore otherwise would've won because they just, the fact there was an R after his name. It didn't matter to a lot of people that he was picking up teenage g He was hanging about the, your high school? That's the mall.
Oh, at the mall. That's right. At
Greg Proops: the mall, that's right. He was banned from the mall. Doug Jones was a noted civil rights attorney and, uh, had a, a, a very illustrious career defending people's rights. Then they put Tommy Tuberville in, um, who's like, maybe, maybe the stupidest person in the Senate. I mean, it's a toss up.
He's a football coach,
Host Brian Copeland: right?
Greg Proops: Yeah. Yeah. If, if, if, uh, Louis Gohmert and, uh, uh, you know, uh, Matt Gates are the stupidest or Marjorie Taylor Greene are the stupidest [00:41:00] people in the Congress. I would think is pretty close to the stupidest person in the center also completely and I don't want to sound like Mr paranoid.
I live in a van or whatever, but he's bought and sold whoever, whoever bought and sold him. The reason why he's not approving all these generals and everything isn't because there's some legitimate gripe. It's that it creates chaos and makes the country weaker, which is everything Republicans want to do.
Host Brian Copeland: They don't want to burn it down. That's the whole MAGA thing is they want to burn the whole thing down. They don't care.
Greg Proops: Only a privileged Nazi white person wants to burn everything down there. I've said it. Anyone who has anything or fought for anything their entire life doesn't want everything burned down.
They want the things to work so that we can all have, it's like the whole defund the police thing. Like, police departments are utterly corrupt and racist. There's no question about that. And they do need to be fired and then rehired and go through process. It's not happening as fast as it ought to the idea that you don't want a police department.
That's who [00:42:00] only a dumb ass. Bernie bro would want.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I see here's the thing we had where I live, there was a defund the. The police movement and I just think it's, it's being misunderstood a defund. The police didn't mean take the entire budget away from the police. What defund the police met was take a portion of the budget, put it towards mental health resources and people who they can call when there's a mental health crisis, as opposed to sending the police, you can get somebody to talk somebody down and get them into a mental health facility or commit them if necessary.
Cause we had, we had in the city where I live, we had a shooting of a, of a, a mentally ill person who was having a mental crisis and he got shot to death in, in a, uh, unarmed and shot to death in a Walmart parking lot. And, and so, uh, so there was a defund the police movement. I think the city council voted for it to go ahead and do it.
And it was just to take a portion of the budget and use the budget towards mental health resources. It didn't mean let's completely zero out the budget for the entire police department so that we [00:43:00] have no cops. You know, at least that's how it was here. Now, I can't speak nationwide, but that's my understanding of what defend the
Greg Proops: police meant it.
You're absolutely right. And they did it in West Hollywood to where they let go for L. A. County sheriff's. They were using and they redirected the funds to have actual counselors deal with people on the street because in Hollywood, like everywhere in California, there's so many people without homes. That you're running into a situation every two seconds and they use the cops to deal with them and the sheriff.
And that's exactly not who should be dealing with people who live on the street. They need all kinds of counseling and all kinds of support that the police department isn't. My point was the Republicans will make it. If you say the words to fund the police, they have made it so that the media and everybody racks immediately and doesn't.
The subtlety you're talking about of the gradations of taking part of the funding and using it for something useful gets lost in the fucking mix and all it turns into is what, you know, yeah,
Don Reed: the [00:44:00] language, uh, around that isn't correct. It needs to be a different phrase around, um, the redirection of funding to that can stick in people's heads.
Something I saw that's brilliant. Uh, that Bart and Bart's been under a lot of focus based on things that happened at Fruitvale station and
Host Brian Copeland: Oscar Grant. And actually, people don't know because we, we, people all over the country and actually other parts of the world listen, listen to or watch this podcast, Bart is Bay Area rapid transit.
It's basically our subway in the Bay and the breakthrough
Don Reed: thing I'm seeing there is they've taken, um, some of that funding for the police force. And directly place it on people in uniform, mental health professionals going train to train, just riding along because there's a lot of people with mental challenges on the trains interacting with them.
And if they escalate, then they'll call in. The police, but the first line of interaction [00:45:00] is one of we're trained to orchestrate a mental challenge. Not, you know, him you up, cuff you and fresh you to the ground,
Host Brian Copeland: which is great. Yeah. That's what most people need. They need, they need counseling and they need medication.
Um, to to completely change the subject, something I read this morning that I found interesting is that they, um, I think this was in the Atlantic, uh, that that psychologists have identified this new syndrome that they call Rebecca syndrome. And it's after the book and the movie Rebecca, which was about a woman who married a man who was a widower and she became obsessed with his former wife, his dead wife.
So what's happening in relationships now is you have, uh, what Rebecca syndrome is, is you are obsessed with. Your, your, your partner's ex to the point to where it's an irrational jealousy that, uh, you're checking the phone to make sure that they're not talking to, uh, you, you feel constantly threatened anytime this, this [00:46:00] X is, is, is mentioned.
And I'm curious as to whether or not either of you has ever done it or, or experienced it from a partner. I was flipped out by who your ex was and whether or not you were still talking to her or, uh, just completely obsessed that if her name came up, she'd prompted them out. I gotta watch my conversation right now, my friend.
Greg Proops: Wow. Okay. I'm
Host Brian Copeland: gonna add a sizable amount of that.
Don Reed: Having, uh, yeah.
Host Brian Copeland: Okay. So I've had a
Greg Proops: number of interactions
Don Reed: where I have a great relationship with my ex wife. We have nicknames. She's XC. I'm XC bestie. So I end up bringing a lot. And she and her love The three of us hang out a lot. So I end up bringing her up a lot, but there's women I've seen you like, you should talk about her a lot.
What's going on with them? So that was asking, always [00:47:00] asking a lot of questions. So what's going on? Are they going to move or like, why are you, what's the concern? But I can, I understand, I don't really
Host Brian Copeland: understand it because I've never You were dancing like you're on Dancing with the Stars right now. Get to the point, you were dancing around this, you were dancing around this.
Because
Don Reed: I know it can be an issue. I've seen some folks in my life that had no issue with it at all. None whatsoever. Never. In fact, ask questions like, hey, are they going to do something? And you can tell by the way they ask whether it's like with joy or whether it's so what's going on with the. Your ex wife, you know, you
Host Brian Copeland: can read that
Don Reed: tone right away.
So I've had, um, so I'm just tap
Host Brian Copeland: dancing.
Greg Proops: It's happened to you a million times. What you're
Host Brian Copeland: trying to say. So tell us the story. I tell her this is Sammy
Don Reed: Davis, Jr. Man.
Host Brian Copeland: I'm tap dancing, man. I knew a man. Oh my goodness. [00:48:00] Tell the story for God's sake. Tell us the story of what, when nobody's gonna be able to identify her. Tell us the story. Uh uh.
Don Reed: Okay.
Um, uh, uh, she was, um, going into my social media circles to track certain things. And so at some point she thought maybe I was seeing my ex-wife again, and you won't believe this. The reasoning was she saw a
Host Brian Copeland: picture of her
Don Reed: somewhere. A picture of her by herself at a pumpkin patch, and she said, that's your shadow on the ground.
Greg Proops: Oh, no, no, no.
Host Brian Copeland: I said,
Don Reed: what? She said, yep, that's your shadow. I said, I wasn't even there that day.
Host Brian Copeland: I for sure was not there. There's no way that was me.
Greg Proops: No story. Ron, that's your shadow. Your shadow, man.
Don Reed: I'm like, that is not me, but it was to that [00:49:00] level.
Host Brian Copeland: Let me just stop there. Oh, that's just, that's, that's crazy.
That's just flat crazy. Greg, you
Greg Proops: got, you got a story. Well, it wasn't a pumpkin patch. It was a Christmas tree farm, but it's the story. It's very much the same. It's because my head is pointier. And,
uh, no, I've never, I, I, uh, I've been with my wife for over 30 years and we've been married a long time. And I just haven't really had any exes. And so long. The last X I have is from. You know, 1983 or something. So, yeah, it's not, it's never really have. And when I did have dated and had girlfriends and whatever, I, I was happy to let them live their lives after they left me and they were generally happy to let me, I never understood the guys that, um, you know, carried a torch till the end of time, you know, like, I remember a couple of guys in college.
I knew who, [00:50:00] like, man, my girlfriend let me go years ago, but I go see her all the time at her work and stuff. Hey, dude. You know, maybe she's not digging it anymore. Maybe there was a reason, you know, like, but guys are worse. People always say women are so bad, but guys can be just terrible about that. Yeah.
Yeah.
Host Brian Copeland: So, you know, yes. Guys, because guys don't open up as easily. And so when a guy opens up, when he opens up and opens his heart up, when he, and it gets hurt, you know, it's, it's, yeah, I've, I've, I've seen that. Fortunately, I haven't been one of them, but I've seen that showing up at work, parking in front of her house.
Who's all
Greg Proops: that stuff. Oh, and I've seen my friends do it with ex wives and stuff. And it's horrible. It's really, truly man. I'm going to book and catch her that you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, you're getting kind of taxi driver here. You know, let it go.
Host Brian Copeland: Let it go.
Greg Proops: Yeah. Go. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, go. You except for Don, of course, who I believe was at that pumpkin patch, and I think from the story
Oh my God.
Host Brian Copeland: You don't even know what that says to me. It [00:51:00] doesn't
Greg Proops: hold water. That's all . That's
Host Brian Copeland: your shadow on
Greg Proops: the ground. It doesn't pass the smell test as they say. Here's
Host Brian Copeland: the thing, here's the thing.
Don Reed: That's bizarre though. It looked exactly like it would be my shadow though. Really.
Host Brian Copeland: So where are you guys playing at? I'll, I'll, I'll start with you, Don. Where can folks see you? Um,
Don Reed: I'll be, um, next at, um, comedy and music Sundays at max. Uh, I'm doing a series of shows that I'm producing and being a part of at max. You just need our launch show, uh, Tuesday night. At max in Fairfax, all pro comedy nights, a lot of lineups sometimes when you have a bunch of comedians can be off and on.
So we're going for the solid, uh, pops punchline style opener, middle headliner at maximum Tuesday nights and then, um, on Sundays, comedy and music. [00:52:00] But our, um, our crown jewel show will be redwood nights on November 30th and new year's eve. We're going to do a storytelling nights in the redwoods. Blankets, glass of wine, and I'd love both of you to join that show at some point on that storytelling nights there, as well as Max, uh, go to, um, go to max, uh, 19 broadway.
com. They can find, uh, all of these shows, uh, max. Um, the Tuesday night, the comedy music Sundays and the Deer Park Villa Redwood nights in a hundred year Redwoods have been right there for the longest, it's a beautiful storytelling and I
Greg Proops: said, where is that? And is that in Marin or is that on the peninsula?
Marin and Deer Park
Don Reed: Villa. Um, a, a beautiful location that's been known for years for, uh, given a wedding since the forties and the fifties, but there's no wedding signage. It's just this beautiful place with this open place in a sweeping [00:53:00] bar. That's just outstanding. And I'm going to speak to both of you about appearing.
I'd love to do
Host Brian Copeland: it. That sounds like fun. Yes, we're
Greg Proops: in Texas this week and then Louisiana, then we come back home and do all the Southern California and then in the beginning of December, Florida. Then I'm going to go to Paris and do the podcast at, uh, Shakespeare and company on the 11th or 12th. I'll, I'll post that soon.
That'll be on greggroups. com. And then, um, uh, back at San Francisco punchline for New Year's week podcast the 1st night and then stand up for 3 nights, uh, ending on the 31st and we're going to make another album there. This is my. That's my new album that I made last year at the punchline. It's called French drug deal.
You can get that on greg. com. I also got a podcast called the smartest man in the world. I do with my wife, Jennifer and I also have another 1 that I do with my wife, Jennifer that I do all the talking called. The Greg Proops Film Club, she chooses the movies. We show a movie [00:54:00] every month in LA, and then I do a film club about that one.
The reason I plug that one is, the last one I did is about the, the movie, The Innocence, which was a Halloween movie, but I didn't talk about the movie at all. I talked about the strike, the nature of show business, what, what's coming on with the producers in a humorous way. And, uh, uh, treating all of the producers and, um, ZLA, uh, Sarandos, uh, uh, I'm forgetting all their names.
The, the Big four Iger. Bob Iger. Iger. And then what's her name from, uh, universal. Um, doing them as, as horror movie characters. , because, you know, the strikes dragging on now, and they're, well, at least they're talking. They made a last best offer 3 days ago and I get an email every day from sag saying we're still looking at the offer.
Um, it's cost California, 4 and a half billion dollars and 45, 000 people lost their jobs. So, I know that people in America are like, who cares about show business, but I have to listen to your stories about how you love the fictional character that flies in the sky and looks over you. So I'd like to talk.[00:55:00]
Sorry, I have to hear about you and your diner.
Host Brian Copeland: I was going to say people don't think about all of the, the ancillary people and maybe ancillary isn't the right word, but you know, the caterers and people who work in wardrobe and you know, the people who are not in front of the camera who are making 20 million a film.
Greg Proops: I mean, pizza parlors. I mean, it's not even never. Yeah, of course the wardrobe people in the, in the crew are brutally hit, but anything, right. For instance, if you guys came to LA right now, you can get a table pretty much. You know what I mean? Like, there's no, you know, things are scandalous. So it's like, if you wanted to hire a car to go to the airport, for instance, it would be quite easy to do.
So, because everything's come to a grinding home, you know, and it's okay for the rich people in show business, but a lot of us are just trying to, you know, whatever.
Host Brian Copeland: Regular. Don, you had something you want to say? Yeah, I'm sag
Don Reed: after strong, but I'm going to rewind for just a second to mention two things.
One is about proofs. Um, the first thing is, uh, I'll be headlining the Throckmorton [00:56:00] on November 18th, only doing the never too late show. Oh, great. The media from the tonight show. Oh, and Johnny Carson, the state and Carson entertainment group, multimedia, one man show one that only Throckmorton November.
Besides that. Lupin, Lupin, Lupin, Greg Troops, you told me backstage at the wonderful outdoor, uh, San Francisco event we did with Brian about Lupin and I have been trans. You
Host Brian Copeland: see the new season? Every inch, every second. So good, isn't it? Thank you. You told me about it too and I haven't had a chance to watch it.
What, what, what, what streaming service is it on? Netflix. Netflix. Okay. Yeah. You told me about it
Greg Proops: too. I forgot. He, he, I don't know if he lives in France still, but I know they did another season. My wife told to subsequent to the one that just put out on Netflix. Um, Omar C is an, uh, actor comedian in, in France and it was his idea to take these [00:57:00] old this gentleman jewel thief and turn him into a modern.
Black man living in Paris now, and he does all of the same, uh, you know, thefts by the book by the, from the books that Lupan, you know, appears in, and he's absolutely a gentleman. No one gets hurt. You know, there's all these, and it's the most clever, beautifully put together. It's not, it's not cheesy. It's not sensational.
It's not gross or violent or anything. You can watch it with kids and. It's clever, and it has a lot to say about, I think, class and race, as well as being a fantastic, uh, kind of, uh, jewel heist show.
Host Brian Copeland: So how many seasons? How many seasons exist? How many what? How many seasons? 3, 2,
Greg Proops: 3,
Host Brian Copeland: 2, 2, Okay, I will. I will.
It's
Greg Proops: really, it's really good. He is absolutely charming. And that's the 1st
Host Brian Copeland: [00:58:00] word I was going to think of.
Don Reed: Yeah, it's charming. And each time. You know, they supposedly got him, you know, he's smart and the mental gymnastics were outsmart when he had someone back their handcuffs in a very classy fashion. It's just very well done.
And it's not over the top about the race blaze, but it lays within and empowers this black leader, you know, in terms of, uh, the lead character. In this dynamic of this world. It's just absolutely fascinating. I can't thank you enough for that series. And
Host Brian Copeland: I'll tell you, I get the Netflix thing. They send me a couple of times a week in terms of, you know, retouting or plugging some, some show that they're streaming.
And I never heard of this. I'd never got anything from Netflix to watch this. I mean, it's a little
Greg Proops: bit, it's a little undersung. I mean, there was an interview with him a few months ago on the Hollywood Reporter. They did one of those zoom calls and everybody's like, so, you know, where did you get the idea?
And Stephanie went, I thought of it. [00:59:00] You know, they couldn't understand that. Not only is he the star and the producer, it was his idea. Like, he went, I'm going to take the Lupin. By the way, there's a million French movies about Lupin over the years. You know, he wears a top hat and a monocle and the gloves in the evening where they've updated it.
So I just think it's just. It's smashing. It's really smashing. All right. You sold me. Well, I'm glad you remembered it wrong because Don, excuse me, because, uh, it's so, uh, I think it's an exhilarating show. It's it's pretty exciting and really funny and sort of inside and kind of, I think you'll like it.
Brian. I really. I don't like to recommend shows that are boring. Like people go like watch Game of Thrones. I'm like, I couldn't watch Game of Thrones. I tried. If you can, I love it. Good for you.
Host Brian Copeland: There's something wrong with me because of the fact that everybody, you know, you ever get in that situation where everybody is crazy about a movie or a show and then you try to watch it and wonder what's wrong with you.
Like, you know, the [01:00:00] most recent version of it, of that is La La Land. Did you see La La Land? I mean, everybody was crazy insane about La La. Thank you. Thank you. So awful. And I couldn't, I liked it. I loved it.
Greg Proops: superhero movies for me, I saw Miss Marvel last night. I like Black Panther. But Black Panther had 15 endings and also the same. Not the second one, the second one, honey, it wasn't that good.
Host Brian Copeland: Oh, the second one was great. Are you kidding me? See, the second one was sure. It was about death and about loss and about grief.
I mean, it was, I thought it was great. I really didn't want the second one. Yeah, I thought they both were good. Disagree. Now, I saw the new Captain Marvel movie in a, in a press screening last night. Um, and, uh, the plus is you don't see many movies that have three female leads, and they're the, they're, you know, they're the leads of the, of, of the movie.
And one of them is white, one of them is [01:01:00] Muslim and one of them is African American. You don't see that. Mm-Hmm. . And so, you know, you know, props to Marvel for that, but it was just. Sensory overload, you know what I mean? Where there's like two, there's two months gone. If I was an epileptic, I would have been like in a seizure, you know, five minutes into this movie, I would have been, I would have been in the aisle having a seizure.
I mean, it was like, it was like that. It was like just sensory overload. It was too much of, you know, give me more story, you know, on a scale of one to 10, I'd give it a seven. I thought the performances were great. So nothing to take away from the performances. It was just too much, you know, that, that's, that's my takeaway.
And it's my opinion. And now I'll open up the paper and I'll see, you know, nah, I won't.
Greg Proops: Brian Copeland derides new Marvel movie. Now I don't, I'm not going to deride many women talking at once says he.
Host Brian Copeland: All right, let me throw my plug in, uh, on Sunday, I'll be doing my show on depression, the waiting [01:02:00] period at the March, San Francisco, and it is free. I do a couple of times a month free to the public. It's like a suicide prevention thing. It's a show that is funny, uh, as well as, as informative. So if you struggle or you have a family member or friends who struggle.
Come on down. It's at noon. It's a matinee show runs about 75 minutes. So you're out of there by like my one 31, 15, one 30. But, uh, but come on out. This is the ninth season. We've been able to do this ninth year and we do it because we get donations from the public and donations from some companies, some, some corporations.
Second thing, and this is a big announcement. Um, during the shutdown, I wrote my first crime novel. And it is a novel that is called, um, outraged and, uh, it has been bought and it's going to be published on may 1st and right before we started recording, I got an email from a publisher saying that, uh, pre orders, which was supposed to start on April 23rd, they started them now.
So effective today. If you want to pre order the book, you can do it. Just go to Amazon. And, uh, it's, it's [01:03:00] my, my, my, my detective, my protagonist is an investigative reporter in San Francisco, African American and his sister, who's an African American, uh, San Francisco, uh, homicide detective. And the premise is, is that someone in the Bay area is killing police officers who have shot unarmed black people and not been punished.
And so they have got to find out who's doing it and why. And that's what the case is a contemporary. It is. It's all it's not. Yeah, it's contemporary. It's the 1st in a series. Uh, what I hope will be a continuing series. I'm I'm most of the way through this. Can
Greg Proops: you tell us the name of the
Host Brian Copeland: hero? The name of the hero is Topher Davis.
His name is Topher Davis. Oh, I love, his name is Chris. His name is Christopher. But he found that he got more, uh, callbacks, uh, interviews as Topher Davis, because it sounds wider than Chris Davis does. , so on, on a resume. It sounds, it sounds wider. So he would get called in for, for interviews then. But, uh, the [01:04:00] Congratulations man.
Thank you. Yeah, thank, congrats on that. So that's what I did during the shutdown. I couldn't go anywhere. I couldn't perform anything, so all I did was cry.
Greg Proops: Hate you. People learn to play the trumpet and speak Portuguese. You wrote a novel. I wrote a
Host Brian Copeland: novel. I didn't learn how to make sourdough bread. I gained
Greg Proops: weight and cried
Host Brian Copeland: I gained 40 pounds, man, I gained 40 pounds during the shutdown. 'cause I, you know, I've been going to the gym every day. I, I've lost like 32 of it, but I gained 40 pounds during the shutdown, you know, just sitting on my butt. I, I, you know, sitting on my butt writing and watching movies. You know that that's mainly what it is that I did Netflix and everything else is what I I what I did.
You know, I didn't get a Peloton, I didn't do that. They're in bad shape. Who wrote that novel? I wrote that. You did, buddy. That's a, I wrote the novel. So, uh, Dom re, Greg PR say, thanks guys. I really appreciate you doing this, and I do it again soon. My pleasure again soon, please. And by the way, Greg, your, your podcast when, uh, tell me when your [01:05:00] podcasts drop and, uh, so folks know.
Greg Proops: I just had one drop a couple of days ago. It's on gregproops. com. Uh, and the SOSTA film club and, uh, uh, all, all everything will be revealed there, the new year's week and all that jazz is there. I have a Jill Maragos with me at the punchline. I try to have all women on the show because you know, you know, how clubs are.
Yeah, I
Host Brian Copeland: know
Greg Proops: God to death until you die hearing about how 30 something guys like to watch pornography.
Host Brian Copeland: Oh, that's a story. We didn't get to, by the way, and I will throw the things. We got a quick minute. Did you see that story about about Johnson? Mike Johnson? Oh, my God, that and his son monitor each other's porn intake.
The new speaker of the house of representatives, uh, Mike Johnson and his son is 17 year old son. They monitor each other's porn intake and what's here's how this works. He has put a program. On [01:06:00] all of their devices, uh, their, their iPhones, their iPads, uh, their, their desktop computers, uh, any, all of their computer devices, anywhere where you can access a website.
And what the deal is, is at the end of every week, it automatically sends a record to your accountability partner, listing all of the websites that you visited over the course of the previous week. And they do that to make sure that they aren't watching porn. So his 17 year old son gets his, and he gets a 17 year old son.
So they can look at all of the websites that they've been. And if, if a porn sites, you know, comes up, then it's time for a conversation. Isn't that it's just twisted. And if you're going to do that, why would you do that with your 17 year old kid? And what's your 17 year old kid going to do? You dad, what is, what is booty liquors?
What is
Greg Proops: it? What is it? Yeah. Yeah. Who, who are the young men of the night? Um,[01:07:00]
it's so evangelical because it's so horrible and like everything I find with them, it turns morality on its head. As opposed to the honest thing where you might say, son, don't, you know, get crazy with that. Instead, you're a spy and now there's a 3rd party and let me just throw another thing out. Brian's insured journalist.
Um, say you were the 3rd highest elected official in the free world. That would be the speaker of the house and now we know that a 3rd party has access to all of your. Computer stuff, did he undo it for being speaker or is he still on it? We know today that Ivana Ivanka, um, used her business email to communicate fraudulent stuff with Jared.
Really freaked out about Hillary doing right. They were doing it too. So [01:08:00] I'm asking you just open question. Mike Johnson has this program. Now, do the 3rd parties get to sell that information to their foreign entities or, you know, exactly.
Host Brian Copeland: How hard is it to hack into that program?
Greg Proops: It's a security issue.
Yeah. It's fucking not hurt at all. That's a 14 year old could do it. I can't, but a 14 year old could, a 14 year
Host Brian Copeland: old could. Um, speaking of Ivanka, um, it is just, I, I just found it laughable how she wanted to get out to testifying. She was subpoenaed to testify. I ordered to testify today, and her excuse for not wanting to testify was that it was during the school week,
She couldn't testify during a school week because it would be too difficult on her family. Excuse me. Uhhuh, you got like nanny. He's, you were going all over the world when, when your dad was president, but now suddenly, you know, how many people are able to get out of court with a subpoena because of that?
Cause yeah, I come up with kids. Can we do it on Saturday? My kids got school.
Greg Proops: Oh, and she was at a [01:09:00] Kardashian party, not two weeks ago in Los Angeles. Really? It was at all, you know, then the gossip columns in LA there, she was on with Kim and all that, you know, but it's really hard for me because the kids, I got to look after them.
Yeah. You don't have any help at
Host Brian Copeland: all. Yeah. None zero, but that's like the first time you ever read goop. Gwyneth Paltrow's, um. Oh God. Yes. Gwyneth Paltrow's e newsletter, Goop. I, I started subscribing a couple of years ago just for giggles because she's so completely out of touch sometimes. So the first one that I read, she was talking about, yeah, I'm a single mom and I don't know how single moms do it.
So I talked to some of my friends who are single moms to find out how they do it. And her single mom, she talked to her like Angelina Jolie. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Madonna. See, how do you do it, Madonna? How are you able to pull it off as a single mom?
Greg Proops: Must be me of au Pairs. Yeah. She years I used to make fun of her on the show and then I quit doing it, um, on the podcast in the early tens because of [01:10:00] Goop.
And she wrote this article about the very same thing about how hard it was, and I said my mother was the oldest of eight from a Mississippi. Like farm family, whose family came over in a Model T for anyway, to make a long story short, she had four children and two crappy husbands. And I don't remember her writing a column at any point.
You know what I mean? Like, we still got fed and we still, she made clothes for us. And like the idea that it's harder for you than it is for someone else is like, wow. Even if you think that keep it to yourself, you know what I mean? And I remember one of my producers went, somebody didn't go to sensitivity training.
Host Brian Copeland: She
Greg Proops: got an award the other night on some, like some fashion magazine gave her an award for something. And all she does is pedal quackery and, you know, she had women bleaching her vaginas. Yeah. And, and the egg. There was the egg and then yeah, the egg [01:11:00] was a candle that smelled like her, her snoop. And like, you know, she's her snoop.
She's the most self-interested, Snoop. And by the way, her snoop, by the way, she hasn't been in a picture for ages, right. Years ago she was in that picture called country Strong or some bullshit. And, um, who was in it? Tim. Tim. Tim. A country star and, um, McGraw. Tim.
Host Brian Copeland: McGraw. Yeah. Tim McGraw and why do I know that?
I don't listen to country. I have no
Greg Proops: idea why I know his name. If I said it anyway, he was decent in the movie and, uh, there was another actress in it too. Who was good a younger actress and going to think she can sing. Right? So she sings her own songs, but they gave her the exact wrong role in the movie.
She's supposed to be like a low at a land, you know, uh, uh, I'm too high. You know, like, uh, Ronnie Blakely and Nashville or whatever, you know, I'm a superstar, but I, Whoa, shit. You know, when I'm off stage, I get crazy. Yeah. But she's never done that in [01:12:00] her life. So watching her pretend to be high. And like, it just means she was kind of tired and scenes like she'd be like, Oh, and it was an interview where she, they said, well, how did you study up for being a troubled drug addled country star?
And she went, I've never really been. Yeah. Yeah. Hi. So I called Robert Downey and asked him what it was like to be a drug addict.
Oh, it's me. Winnie. What's it like when you're high?
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. She's not
Greg Proops: even say that, you know what I mean? It's just like, Oh God. And thank God she's not in pictures anymore. Cause.
Host Brian Copeland: Wow. Well, she was good in the, in the, the, again, you know, like superhero movies. The last thing she did was the Avengers endgame.
Pepper Potts. That was the last thing she did is, yeah, is Iron Man's wife, Iron Man's widow. [01:13:00] I don't, I don't mean to be a spoiler, but I am Iron Man's widow. So. Can I ask
Don Reed: you a question? Brian, you're running in Berkeley or San
Host Brian Copeland: Francisco at the March. Oh, I'm at the March in San Francisco, Sunday, Sunday at noon.
Don Reed: Okay. Because I forgot to mention East 14th, Berkeley. I'm going to use 14th and
Host Brian Copeland: Berkeley for eight shows. Oh, I'm going to come and see it again. If you've not seen that, it's a great show. It is a wonderful show. It's your 14th anniversary, right? 14th anniversary, exactly. 14th birthday party, I'm calling it.
I'll come out and see it, definitely. Well, thanks guys. Again, please, please come back and visit me soon. Love you, buddies. Talk to you later. Thanks so much. Bye. All right. That's going to do it for us. Uh, I will check you out next week. Uh, next Thursday, if you like the podcast or a couple of things that you can do to support us.
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