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EP168 - Copeland's Corner with Don Reed, Lauren Mayer & Kate Robards
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Host Brian Copeland: Well, hello again. This is Brian Copeland. Welcome to another edition of Copeland's Corner. If all goes well, a little bit later on we'll be joined by three distinguished comics who will join us for our Headliners on the Headlines segment. We'll talk about some of the news of the week. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving weekend.
Uh, today being Wednesday, we record this, uh, this podcast on Wednesdays and it drops on Thursdays. Uh, there has been a resolution that has been introduced in the house of representatives to expel representative George Santos of New York. The serial, they keep calling him a serial fabulous. I love that.
He's a fabulous. How about he's a liar? What fabulous. He's a liar. I mean, the guy even lied about his own name and they tried twice to expel them, but they didn't have the votes in order to expel somebody from the house of [00:01:00] representatives. You need a two thirds majority. And they were well short of that.
With a number of, uh, of his Republican colleagues saying that they would not vote to expel because, uh, there had not been due process. He hadn't been officially charged with anything when in fact, he had their 23, uh, federal counts against him for various, uh, financial manipulations and misuse of campaign funds and things.
Well, the house ethics committee came out with a damning report about 10 days ago, uh, listing all of the things that he's done just, you know, something we hadn't heard about where, uh, for example, his campaign was soliciting, uh, donations from people and having to put the donations on their credit cards and then Santos would then.
It's at those and or his people would take the credit card information and put charges on the card without the permission or the knowledge of the donor and use the card to charge [00:02:00] personal expenses. I mean, he was doing things like, you know, charging for designer clothes and expensive dinners and, and, uh, an only fans account, even they put in somebody's car.
So there's all this kind of stuff. So now in light of the house ethics committee, uh, Report coming out. You have a number of congressmen who congressmen and congresswomen who voted against expelling him who have now flipped. There's something like 90 of them who have flipped and said that if it comes up for a vote now, they will, in fact, vote to get rid of him.
Now, the question is whether or not it's gonna be enough to hit the two thirds. The most recent thing I read right before coming on to record here is that the Speaker of the House Uh, Speaker Johnson says that, uh, he has some reservations about whether or not, uh, he should be, uh, removed, whether or not Santos should be removed because he has not been convicted of anything.
It's like, come on. The guy even lied about it. [00:03:00] It's just, it's, it's funny, but it's not funny. I mean, it's funny because it's just so ridiculous. It's, it's, it's, it's gone so incredibly far. The things that this guy lied about, uh, and it's, and it's just, I mean, I, I'm, I'm speechless and you can tell I'm speechless because there's just so much here, but he has reservations and then we know what the reservations are about.
It's about the fact that the Republican majority in the house representatives is razor thin. It's something like four or five and they cannot afford to lose this vote. They really can't afford to lose his vote. If they kick him out, what happens is there is a special election in his district in upstate New York, and there is a slim to zero chance that the Republicans are going to hold onto that seat when there's the special election, which would take place.
If he's kicked out today, tomorrow, sometime this week, you're looking at this special election to take place in a. The special election will take place in, uh, I believe March is what, uh, is when it's [00:04:00] projected to happen. So stay tuned. We'll see whether or not they get rid of them this time. If they don't get, if they don't kick you out for stuff like this, nobody should ever be kicked out of Congress for anything ever again.
This is the part of the podcast we call Headliners on the Headlines. Joining us are two of my favorites. Lauren Mayer is here with us. Don Reed is here with us. Uh, Kate Robards is supposed to be joining us from New York, uh, and, uh, she may be having some technical issues. So if all goes well, we will drop her in as soon as, uh, as soon as she pops up.
If not, it'll be the three of us. So happy after Thanksgiving. Happy pills. Thanksgiving. You guys eat a lot. Everything good.
Lauren Mayer: Yeah. Thanks.
Don Reed: It was my birthday. So it's interesting how you exponentially get more congratulations of birthday, but also [00:05:00] exponentially more family around to have their conflicts.
Yeah. I remember that time when you, Oh, really? Thank you. Happy birthday. Uh, indigenous people's drama day.
Lauren Mayer: We used to have a magnet on our refrigerator. That's a George Burns quote. Happiness is a warm, loving family in another time zone.
Host Brian Copeland: Having a birthday on a holiday and a major holiday can be kind of a drag. Mine turns up on Easter every seven or eight years. My birthday, my, um, April 21st. So every seven or eight years or so it'll fall on Easter. Uh, I got another friend who's born on Christmas.
Lauren Mayer: My best friend from college is December 31st.
So he used to think the fireworks were for him. And my birthday is almost always in the middle of Hanukkah. So I used to get birthday presents with the Hanukkah paper ripped off. I could see little traces, oops, but, but, but birthday
Host Brian Copeland: paper on it. The good old, Oh, I love these two together. Yes. I
Lauren Mayer: always say your, your Hanukkah and birthday [00:06:00] is the same.
So.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah, my
Don Reed: brother and sister got the double lumping. My birthday's on the 23rd. Theirs was on the 26th and the 27th. And they always look with me, look at me with disdain. Like you got extra. Happy birthday. Ours is a clumper,
Host Brian Copeland: you know? Well, happy birthday. And yeah, happy birthday. And happy birthday to you, Lauren.
Yours is coming up in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Alright, let's, uh, let's, uh, kick off with this. Um, what I talked about my monologue before bringing you guys on is, uh, that the resolution introduced in the house today to kick out George Santos. Finally. Now, whether or not they have the votes, who knows? Who knows?
So, I was going through some of the things that he is lied about. . I don't know what she does. Remember what you don't, how long have you got? I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start with this. Okay. Here, I'll give you my two favorite. George Santos lies , my two favorite. And if you can remember. Give me your two favorites.
Here are my two favorites. The first one is when he got busted [00:07:00] for claiming that his grandparents survived the Holocaust. And he is not Jewish. And what he said was, no, no, no, no, no. I have said that I was Jew ish. Oh, what a fool. What a fool! I was Jew ish. That's one of my favorites. My second favorite lie is he claimed that he produced, uh, that he was a producer for, uh, Uh, Spider Man into the night, I think was the name of the, like open and closed in like two days or something.
So it's like, if you're going to lie about producing a musical, at least lie about a hit, not lie. That's like a lie about, yeah, you know, I also helped build the Titanic, you know, lie about at least five or something that's good.
Lauren Mayer: My, I took that Jewish lie personally because there are a lot of Jews who claim they're not observant.
And that Jewish is actually a thing. It's people who are culturally Jewish, but they're not religiously observant. It doesn't mean you're not really, [00:08:00] um, it, it, it's something that we used to. So he took that away from sort of cultural non religious Jews. But my other favorite part about it is like my grandparents survived the Holocaust.
They were in the United States and they survived and it happened. That's kind of how, you know, it's like, I mean, he, that my other favorite life from him is that, and I guess it's true because the ethics report showed how much money he spent at Botox and OnlyFans and at Ferragamo. And somebody who spent that much money on high fashion things, dresses the way he does.
Host Brian Copeland: I know. Yeah. That's what I wonder when I saw that he was shopping at all these high end stores and everything. He's dressed like a college freshman. Well, the
Lauren Mayer: Botox doctor though, I'm riveted by this story cause that's what I'm going to do my song about. I'm waiting to find out if they have, they think they have the votes.
So I've got two versions of the song plan. One, if he does get expelled. One, if it gets kicked down, you know, to kick the can down the street. But the doctor who did his Botox is not licensed to [00:09:00] do any kind of cosmetic anything. Oh, wow. He's a doctor. And apparently he got sued for doing a failed penile enhancement surgery on a client.
So there is a malpractice lawsuit. And of course. It wouldn't just be any medical malpractice. It was a failed penile enhancement. Well,
Host Brian Copeland: that's the thing. If you were going to have a penile enhancement, would you try to do it on the cheap?
You'll see willingness to save a couple of bucks on your stuff. I'll buy generics of certain things. But when you go to getting a penile enhancement, not that would he went, but if I did need one, I certainly wouldn't do it on the cheap. Hey, don't don't cut corners on
Don Reed: that. Right? Well, check this out,
Host Brian Copeland: though.
Here's the thing. There's Kate. I'm sorry.
Don Reed: The, the way he, um, lays out his lies the way George Santos do. Like you said, Brian, the things he chooses to lie about and the degree of importance when they might not have been [00:10:00] nothing. Like he lied about, uh, being on a soccer team of like a known name soccer team, which you might wanna do to go under the radar.
Good life, but then lie about being connected to a financial institution, but choose Goldman Sachs, one of the largest on planet
Lauren Mayer: earth and easiest to prove. Yeah, I just
Don Reed: things easiest to prove. And the soccer thing is the least easiest. Like, nobody cares about what was the school.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Yeah. And then they called the school and the school never heard of him.
Lauren Mayer: Right. Or the other one I loved is his mom died in nine 11, but no, actually she didn't die. She survived it. I mean, like, you know, I, I honestly think the whole thing is performance art. It's like a giant, um, what's the comedian, um, Andy Kaufman who like, you know, did all this, his whole life. Put on, because if you're going to lie about such ama Oh, and the other one I, which is gonna go in my song, is he is now comparing himself to Mary [00:11:00] Magdalene.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean was, which I don't that comparison was what, because he's being shamed in the public square.
Host Brian Copeland: Because historically, supposedly there, you know, there's a theory that's come out in the last several years that Mary Magdalene was actually one of the apostles. And may have actually been Jesus's wife.
Right. And that, that, uh, historically now because men wrote the Bible and men have written the scriptures and so forth, that she was demonized and, and shamed as being a prostitute when in fact she was one of the apostles and, and was perhaps Jesus' wife. So that's one of
Lauren Mayer: the theories. So Santos is K clubby.
He was Jesus's wife. That's interesting.
Host Brian Copeland: That's it. Or a prostitute. One of the two. . Okay. Welcome. Good to have you with tech issues. No problem.
Kate Robards: My gosh. It's so glad to be here. I just want to say that, um, you know, we got to go back to the OG politician. We got to talk about Ronald Reagan, right? Cause he was wild with those stories as well.
And people paletted it a little more because he had that acting background and now politicians are like, why do I [00:12:00] even need to be an actor? Right? Like I can just lie. All the time. It's
Host Brian Copeland: so fun. There was a story, I remember when Reagan was president, where he was talking about some World War II mission he was on, and the, the bombing, you know, an bomber jet or something.
And then come to find out it was a movie he was in. Remember movie Will, will, will, here's the thing. Well, I was, well, I was in a movie. Well.
Lauren Mayer: It's like, uh, what's his, um, uh, the TV show about the robot, um, max headroom. He's Reagan always seemed like one of those animatronic malfunctioning robots. I mean, he looks quaint, you know, Nancy Reagan's astrology stuff.
I mean, all that stuff looks so quaint compared to, you know, the liars we have
Host Brian Copeland: now. Well what's amazing is Reagan would be considered too liberal for today's party. That's that's, that's the frightening thing. Let's see, [00:13:00] what are the things that you can't go
Kate Robards: ahead? I'm in New York. I'm in New York. And, you know, Eric Adams has been in the hot seat before for lying and it reminds me almost of the Hassan Minaj controversy where it's like, what's the difference between a good story if you're using it?
Because Eric, um. Adams, Mayor Adams was, I think it was a fallen soldier, a fallen police officer who he carried in his wallet and apparently, um, one of his staffers said they hadn't, he had me print that up right before the press conference. It was this endearing, wonderful story. And unfortunately, it's not true, but it's kind of like, where do you say, Hey, this is a, you know, like the Bible, a parable.
That we're trying to teach a lesson to have heart. We're not saying I actually have heart, but like, and it would be good if you did, right?
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I'm going to have something when I was staying, um, I, I just really think he's been treated unfairly because let's be honest, all comics lie in their acts. [00:14:00] We, I mean, that's, you know, never, no, come on, please.
I mean, we exaggerate, that's what makes it funny. I mean, you, you, you find, you find the kernel of truth in it, or, or at least the bit has, has, uh, an overarching truth, but you, you exaggerate it in order to
Lauren Mayer: really make it funny. But as long as the exaggeration. Yeah, like you said, based on, like, my mother is from Washington State.
In my schtick about her, she has a New York accent because it makes her sound more Jewish. You know, that I think, but we're, as comedians and performers, we're not campaigning for public office and expecting people to trust them with establishing policies that affect them. We're just trying to make them laugh.
So I think it's a bit different for a comedian than a politician.
Kate Robards: Having had one of the longest running solo shows about being a black man I that I did That
happened to me [00:15:00]
Don Reed: Kate
Host Brian Copeland: Santos, what's up? That was one of the Santos memes that I saw the crack me up. It was, it was a him on Martin Luther King's body stand in front of a big crowd and said, George Santos given his famous. I have a dream speech.
Lauren Mayer: He's got a top Melania.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. There's, there's a meme that's going around today that the mega people are, are tweeting back and forth to each other and posting.
And what it is, is a meme of Donald Trump with what's supposed to be Jesus. Behind him with his hands on Donald Trump's shoulders, except what these maggot idiots don't realize is if you look at the picture, it's not Jesus. It's Manson. It's true. I look, go to my Facebook. I posted, you know, he's got the, you know, the head dress on and the whatnot, you know, the, the traditional, uh, depiction of Jesus, except when you look at the face, it's Manson.
And they're tweeting it back and forth and posting it all over the place and they have no [00:16:00] idea. The
Lauren Mayer: other one, I love that. I thought you were going to talk about this one. They're tweeting out pictures from Rosalynn Carter's funeral because Melania showed up and was sitting in the front with all the other former first ladies.
She was the only one not dressed in black. And there's this shaft of sunlight that kind of hits the back of her head. And they're all claiming that that is a, an anointing from God because she didn't wear black. So all the other first ladies are Satanists. And this was on InfoWars.
Host Brian Copeland: You know, what's really classy is that Rosalyn Carter specifically, uh, left instructions that she was to be invited.
Lauren Mayer: I think she and Donnie were, they invited Donald Trump. He didn't go.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I don't think so. What I read was it was specifically her. Because she wanted all of the living first ladies to be together and, and thought that that might be some kind of a bridge with how divided we are as, as a nation right now to have her there.
If Donald [00:17:00] Trump would have been there, I mean, you know, everything would have been about him. I mean, if he walks in a room, suddenly everything's about him, you know, so, um, so it's a good thing he didn't come. And I thought that was that, you know, again, that tells you what Rosalyn Carter, just, you know, how, how incredibly classy she was.
Classy as president Carter is. I mean, whereas as other former presidents have spent their post presidency getting millions of dollars for giving speeches and sitting on boards of directors and those kinds of things, you know, he was off building houses for the homeless, for habitat, for humanity and teaching Sunday school and teaching Sunday school and doing things like this.
And, and, and it was also classy to invite her because of the fact that Trump has on the campaign stump been trashing Carter. I mean, this is after Carter has gone in the hospice and he's trashing him and trashing his presidency and trashing his administration and all of this stuff. So, uh, there is Trump stuff in the news and I try to avoid it.
I really do. So I'm so sick of talking about this nitwit, but there's so much stuff that you [00:18:00] can't avoid it. So here's a question I've got for you. One of the things that's being challenged right now among his myriad of. Of legal issues is that there is a, uh, there are two gag orders that are in place, uh, that restrict what it is that he can say.
Uh, the reason being is that he's attacking court personnel. He's attacking judges. He's attacking prosecutors. And when he attacks these people, what happens is, is it's, it's not so coded directions for his followers to go after them. To threaten them with harm. Uh, the, the, both of these, uh, gag orders, the one in federal court and the one in the New York fraud trial are both on hold as they are being appealed right now.
And the argument that his lawyers are using in New York and the appeal is when, when the other side brought up at look, um, since this, just since this gag order has been stayed, the judge and the, the clerk in the fraud case have gotten literally hundreds, hundreds A [00:19:00] death threat a day. Hundreds a day. Uh, their, their private cell phone numbers are out.
And so they're getting calls on the cell phone. They're getting emails. They're getting, uh, uh, just, you know, actual mails, you know, through snail mail sent to them and all this stuff that's going on. And, uh, and so their response is the argument is, is that Trump should not be penalized because he can't control what other people do.
So does he have a, we'll think about that for a second. Does he have a legitimate argument unless he specifically comes out and says, you know, I want you to go to, to, to kill this judge. I want you to threaten the life of, of this clerk. He doesn't come on say it, but you know what it is. He means, you know, it's, it's, it's like mob boss talk like, Oh, nice to be a real shame of something happened to it.
It's like that kind of stuff that he does. So do you think that his, that his attorneys have a point that he can't control what other people do?
Lauren Mayer: They [00:20:00] have a point that he can't control that he isn't necessarily 100 percent responsible, but they don't have a point is the gag orders. This isn't the first time there've been gag orders and There have been gag orders just to color the jury's minds.
That's, I mean, it's not just about preventing death threats. This is, it makes it a little bit more urgent. Um, I love Alina Haba, the, the, the, one of his ditzy lawyers who looks like she's advertising to be a Victoria's Secret model. I don't know. So I've never seen more cleavage on a lawyer. Um, but.
Host Brian Copeland: But she's tracking for the jury.
That's the whole idea.
Lauren Mayer: That's the whole idea. And obviously it's what Trump is looking at. But she said, you know, death threats are just part of the game when you're in the legal system. And it's like, no, it's not. And what that does is create all this distraction. And that's. I mean, so yeah, he's not directly responsible for the death threats, even if it, you know, but there is a correlation, even if it's not direct causation and that's creating a problem.
And that's what the gag orders are all about [00:21:00] to not just preventing the death threats.
Host Brian Copeland: What
Don Reed: we learned in, um, intercollegiate speech and debate at UCLA is gag orders. Everyone knows what, uh, uh, the larger immediate form of what a gag order is supposed to mean, but it's supposed to. Um, mostly target nuance of what could be said that can shade a jury's point of view or the public's point of view.
And so when he says things in that mob speak of, you know, uh, somebody might need to take care of that. Those kind of phrases mean that language and everybody knows what that language means. So he, they don't have a leg to stand on his. His representation doesn't have a leg to stand on when he says these things, like, you know, we shouldn't let this stand.
Somebody needs to do something about what's happening in America right now, what they're doing to me. And then,
Host Brian Copeland: you know, exactly. All right. Well, Kate, you're in New York. You tell me.
Kate Robards: They need [00:22:00] to go past the gag order. What we, we shouldn't, I don't want to look at his face, honestly. Like not only not say anything, it's like a look, you know, we are in such a society like, don't, he could be doing science.
He could be doing, I think the larger thing is like, we just, people love to hate one another, you know? Like people are so united over if, if he hates them, I hate them and. You know, it's just What about love y'all?
Host Brian Copeland: What about love ?
Lauren Mayer: You know what? I'm curious. That's where the card
is
Host Brian Copeland: because Kate, you, you come from, from, is it Orange?
Texas? That's right. From, that's a little, little town. Orange. Orange, Texas. And, um, you live in Manhattan. You live in New York. So is it culture shock to go home to this little town in, in Texas? Is it a big pro-Trump right wing town compared to where it's that you're now?
Kate Robards: The biggest culture shock was the Bay Area because I always say the Bay Area is the [00:23:00] conservative.
Deep South in reverse, you know, I, um, would get, you know, into polite conversations. My brother works in the, um, gas and oil industry when he has a job and he was telling someone in the Bay area about it. And, uh, and they're like. Bro, what about the polar bears? I'm like, he's gonna knock you out if you insult his work, but he was so non confrontational about it that my brother's like, didn't even catch that he was being, you know, critical because there's a language for critic for being critical that like, both sides don't speak.
So I'm like, I just, I think it's hilarious. And sad. But Al also, you know, when people condemn people who, who are living like that without looking at going to the, the MLK, you know, his, he had a dream for poor white people. He had, he started the Poor People's campaign and when That's right. Um, Upton Sinclair said it's hard to get Amanda to understand something when his [00:24:00] livelihood depends on not understanding it.
And that's how I think about where I'm from and the gas and oil and them all supporting Trump because he's like, I'm gonna, you know, Biden and clean energy. And all they think of is our jobs and we can get make a decent living and we don't have to get an education or talk about those things that y'all talk about.
And y'all hate us because we don't know how to talk about that language. And we hate y'all because y'all hate us. And so, so I think it's this, like, sad loop that's just going to keep getting bigger and bigger. And I wouldn't have been able to come to New York and be around. Um, so, so many different ideas had I not been in the Bay area.
And then also, you know, New York, you have, um. More, I mean, you have more different, um, I mean, it's still like a lead this in Manhattan, but, you know, you have your working class people. My, my boyfriend's parents were bus drivers and they have a pension and they moved to the South as retirees and it's funny to me that it's like, what was poor in New York now [00:25:00] can go to the South and have a nice retirement and in the South.
Where do they go? Right? Well, they just go to chat rooms and hate 1 another and that's. Yeah. I don't know if that answers your question, but I think we are so like, orange is so far from in mindset from the Bay Area. And yet. You know, you have to see the humanity of 1 another. And because those people don't get to be around each other that much, they don't get that
Host Brian Copeland: chance.
Well, that makes sense. I mean, if you can open up and hear what the other side has to say, or at least try, excuse me, the front, at least try to see their point of view, but. When people are spewing hate, it's, it's hard to try to open up to see, like, I can't see, understand the point of view of someone who hates people based on their, their gender based on their ethnicity, based on their, on their race, on their religious background.
I can't, there's no way that I could put myself in that position to say, okay, we will have [00:26:00] to agree to disagree. There's some stuff you can't agree to disagree. I mean, am I being intolerant when I say that, that there are some things you can't agree to disagree with.
Lauren Mayer: I totally agree with you and, and, and I totally see what you're saying, Kate, there is a lot of closed minded isolation.
We're all in our own bubbles. Don't like the both sides ism though, because in general there, I think there are fewer people on the, and there are some crazies on the left, but in terms of politics, the crazies on the left, aren't the ones who are in leadership positions. Basically the Democrats who are in office like Biden are moderate.
centrists, but then you've got these, you know, not just George Santos, but the Marjorie Taylor greens and the Lauren Boberts who are just hateful and ignorant and racist and Mike Johnson, who wants to run the country like it's based on the Bible and thinks life begins at conception. And. I don't know. I just, I,
Kate Robards: I would like to see more [00:27:00] crazy liberals, you know, like
Host Brian Copeland: not crazy, you know, they're
Kate Robards: being kooky, you know, they're out there saying wild.
Stuff, you know, where's this thing where it's like, I want a crazy person to be like and I love Muslims and Jews and I'm a Christian and we all got together and had an orgy. I don't know what it is, but it's like, what is the kooky person that's going to be like, Oh, like, that's going to shock and horrify.
The right wingers. Oh, they're
Lauren Mayer: horrified by our very existence. And also, you know, it's, that's, I think why a lot of the cookies are in entertainment. I mean,
Kate Robards: I don't know. I feel like we're too polite and like, you know, I love the Michelle Obama quote, when they go low, we go high. And I'm like, being from Orange, Texas, that's when they knock your knees out.
You know, they're like, they're like, don't go high.
Lauren Mayer: But we can [00:28:00] do, I like the variation. When they go low, we write comedy about it. I mean, yeah, we make fun of them. I think that's why I think a lot of the best satire is on the left because they're really easy to make fun of. And that's a, and wit and humor are really powerful way of sort of breaking that down without being mean in response.
Cause if we have to go lower than they go, it is like you said, all going to be about hate. Let me ask
Host Brian Copeland: you this. Have any of you heard any, any funny. Front right wing comedy. I'm trying to think of ever heard anybody do right wing comedy. I mean, I know comics who whose political uh Personal political preferences are to the right and are pro trump and whatever but you don't you don't hear them at least around here You know say it out loud on a stage in front of an audience so has anybody actually come out the way that that those from the left will And, and espouse a political point of view.
That's funny on the right. Is there anybody doing it? No, not very, not very
Don Reed: much. Cause here's the thing. Um, it'll start [00:29:00] funny, but then the real textures of who they are come through, and then it becomes unfunny. There's a guy right now who came out and said, um, uh, he's, he's a right wing comic and he said, Hey, you know, I say.
Uh, are you gonna have abortion? And I don't think there should be abortion. You know, what are all these black women gonna do with their
Host Brian Copeland: babies? Oh my God. He said,
Don Reed: wow. He said, you wanna kill 'em? He said, heard, I'll buy them. He said, let's bring slavery back. I'll buy them. Isn't it better to, for me to buy them than for you to go ahead and kill 'em?
Let me buy,
Host Brian Copeland: buy comics some free labor, and go from there. So. It just see what's the audience do? What are the audience? Well, it's the audience response. He was doing it
Don Reed: online and people are coming in mass down on. I didn't
Kate Robards: know he was a comedian. Someone sent me that this morning. I'll send it to you.
Brian. Okay. Do y'all know Tim
Host Brian Copeland: Dillon? I know the name, but I've never seen him
Kate Robards: work. Y'all got to listen to him because he is like sweeping everything. And he, I grew up [00:30:00] listening to unfortunately, uh, Rush Limbaugh playing on the radio in the background. And you know, I would listen to Tim Dillon and it just like reeks of like Rush Limbaugh.
I'm like, I got to, I can't listen to this. I can't listen to this. And then he's, it's like satirical. What he's saying. I mean, there's some really interesting things that people are playing with where. You know, people who would be super, like, they're saying offensive things and they are on the left, but they're using that rhetoric, uh, either like calling words that I wouldn't use as a black Southern woman, or as someone who went to school in the Bay Area.
But it's like, there is this interesting point, I think, where things tipped so far into political correctness, where you can use some of that rhetoric and not determine, like, you know, you're a right wing or left wing. But, like, if you look into Tim Dillon, he's doing some really interesting, bizarre stuff where you're like.
He's playing with the character of that type of, and he's a gay man. I should say this. He's a white gay man. A
Host Brian Copeland: right wing gay man. That's something I've never [00:31:00] understood.
Kate Robards: I'm not saying he's right wing. I'm not saying it, but if you listen to his rhetoric, he's using that rhetoric comedically. And so I don't know his personal political bent, but then when you listen to it, you're, you will find your, I will, I'm curious to hear how y'all will take some of this.
Don Reed: But maybe it's like, you know, Charlie Varian, um, and, and I'm going to pitch this right now to you, Brian, you should do a show. We have Charlie Baron on as, uh, Russia Limbaugh. He does an
Host Brian Copeland: incredible rush. Yeah. He had done a show. It was a huge.
Don Reed: And you have me on as Jesse Jackson. I'll come on and I'll speak as Jesse Jackson.
And then you have a couple of pundits on speaking in character for the whole episode.
Lauren Mayer: But to your point about the right wing comedy, cause I get that all the time when I put, cause I do my songs every week and people will say, well, where's your song making fun of Biden's. You know, dementia or where's your song making fun of, you know, Nancy Pelosi instead of Lauren Boebert and I will, I will sometimes engage with these folks and say, great, [00:32:00] you know, I write about what I feel.
So you send me the funny songs on the right and there aren't any, um, their idea of humor is my pronouns are. Impeach Fauci, you know, I mean, it's like, that's what they think is funny and you can make fun of Facebook giving you 37 options for pronouns. I mean, there is some comedy in that, but yeah, it feels like what I had, like Greg Gutfield on Fox news.
Host Brian Copeland: Who was a huge audience whose audiences you I've never seen him.
Lauren Mayer: Is he funny? No, it's, it's, it's insult. It, to me, it goes back to the stuff that, you know, like, you know, the Don Rickles. The, the, you know, take my wife, please. My wife is so ugly that there was a lot of, in, in addition to what was really funny, there was a lot of mean spiritedness behind a lot of that.
That isn't funny anymore. Um,
Kate Robards: it is subjective and at the biggest comedian, you know, has a huge right wing, the, you know, uh, the, the biggest, I would say even pundit in our country [00:33:00] is a comedian who has a huge right wing following and that's Joe Rogan. You know, you can. He is the biggest outlet. A comedian goes on his podcast and their lives are forever changed.
He is bigger than any late night show and he has a huge right wing. So it's like, how can you say, I mean, it's subjective to say it's not funny, but you know, even for me, I'm, I'm going to Texas to do shows this next weekend. And I'm like someone who. I was too polite and, and little of a woman to ever do any to be heard of outside of the church in Texas, you know, I didn't find my voice.
So I went to San Francisco and then in New York and I'm like, oh, is this going to be funny? And can I say this coming from a place of love? No. And I know people on the other side that bridges and makes fun of both of us, you know, like, you know, my thing where women and, you know, Texas are like, yes, I'm a feminist.
All my guns are pink. Women in New York are like, yes, I'm a feminist because I'm hot and rich, you know, women in California are like, I'm a feminist because I have my pussy hat or whatever they crochet, you know, but how do [00:34:00] you, how do I not? Because I know if the second I'm going to start saying like, right wing left wing, they're going to be like, Well, fuck you.
Sorry about that language. Oops. But it's easy to condone, and I want to be open to hearing them, even if they are full of bigots, because maybe there's a nugget of something good in there that you can find that thing to connect. And I want to also, you know, I mean, I'm just like teetering that line because I know I'm going to Texas and I'm like a lot of this stuff where I make fun of Texans.
Host Brian Copeland: They won't do it in their faces. You'll talk your smack. You just won't do it to their faces. No,
Kate Robards: I want to do it in their face in a way that's like holding up a mirror and not like also not being mean spirited about them, you know, where it's like, oh, they're being, cause sometimes you're, you're being a bully to show something right.
Right. Like to show a flip of power. I don't know. But I think. You know, this thing of like, um, right wing can't be funny is just not true or not like there aren't any funny [00:35:00] people because
Lauren Mayer: I'm not, no, I'm not saying right when people can't be funny. And in my particular end of comedy, which is satirical songs, I just haven't seen it yet.
I'm not saying it can't be. And I also make fun of people on our side too. There's plenty to make fun of. And I agree with you. If we can just be funny without being mean spirited, but also without punching down. I feel like if I'm going to make fun of people, punch up, I'm
Host Brian Copeland: finding it.
Don Reed: In this, when we talk about how we can't talk to the other side, I'm finding in social media when you're outside on the platform, like you're in a chat room or you're on Instagram, they've got to stick with their stance for all the people looking on, but, and I tried that, like you were mentioned, uh, Brian just can't take some of the, you can't agree to disagree with people on certain things, but sometimes whenever you get them one on one in direct message, the whole dynamic changes.
Yeah,
Host Brian Copeland: it does. Yeah. Sometimes so,
Don Reed: in some cases, I'll figure out, like, I'm having a conflict with [00:36:00] someone. I'll dm them. And usually in those conversations, we come to some kind of. Of interaction that is palatable. We may
Host Brian Copeland: not as strident, they're not as strident one on one as they are when they're, when they're screaming into a bull horn.
Let me, let me ask you this, because you're talking about going to Texas, because when I was a road comic, I used to play Texas a lot. There were a lot of places. I used to play the laugh stop. You probably did these down the laugh stop and, and, uh, where was it? It was, there's one in Austin. There's one in Houston.
Yeah, there were a funny bone in San Antonio. There was an improv I used to play at Dallas and, and with the exception of Austin, um, I would, would change my act. If I went to Texas, cause here's stuff that I knew just was not going to play. Austin was always different. Awesome. I'll tell you one of the coolest things ever happened to me.
I interviewed Renee Zellweger and she said that when she was in college in Austin, she used to come to the last stop and watch me. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, so I'm older than that [00:37:00] makes me feel good. But, uh, but, but, but that was the one place where, where, you know, the, that was the blue spot in even then a very conservative state where you could say stuff.
So, so when you play places like that, did you make a conscious effort or do you make a conscious effort before you go that I'm not going to say certain things because I know I can't get away with it. I know I, I, I had gun jokes and things, for example, you know, that were gun controlled pro gun control jokes that there's no way in hell I was gonna, I was going to do in, in the state of Texas.
There's just no way. Yeah. You, if you're not, uh,
Don Reed: unless you're trying to.
Host Brian Copeland: I mean, I don't
Don Reed: it's almost like it's not even safe for your career, or you can't even get them a little bit on your side with a little bit of the hint you would do to pull them to sanity. If you're going to stick to your material, no matter what.
It's not really in my eyes. Professional. Your goal is to entertain that
Host Brian Copeland: audience.
Don Reed: It doesn't mean you have to, uh, kowtow and make up a [00:38:00] bunch of jokes that are completely against your beliefs, but that, that joke that you know is like a raw problem creator. Why do it? Did you have a body of material when you could do this thing that kind of hints at it or, or kind of sticks in there and gets right out?
Why do a seven minute bit on, you know, you're horrible people and you're against abortion? Why do that?
Host Brian Copeland: What, what is the goal? Well, you know, you, you, you've got to connect with them on some level and there's some stuff that you know, if you go to certain places that you're not going to connect with, there's the biggest mistake I ever made on stage was I was playing at the, it was a laugh stop in Newport beach.
I'd never been to Newport beach before, and it was right after Richard Nixon, where I grew up. Newport beach was there.
Lauren Mayer: Well, I grew up in Irvine, but right next door. Yeah. So, so I
Host Brian Copeland: did this and I didn't know that, you know, and I did this joke that Richard Nixon just died at the age of 70, whatever it was proven [00:39:00] once again, that the good die young and I didn't realize that I was in Orange County.
I didn't realize. That, that was kind of like where his like presidential library was like right next door and all that stuff.
Lauren Mayer: You know, they named the airport in Orange County is named, it's the Ronald rake. Uh, I would just, I was rather do I win the John Wayne Memorial. Right. I mean, I grew up there. I can't, I canvassed for McGovern as a kid and people, I mean, it was so far out that they laughed at us.
I mean, it, I mean, it's, it, and when. I'm older than you are, but back when you played there, I mean, it's, it's still very conservative. It is where Kevin McCarthy comes from,
Host Brian Copeland: right? It's
Lauren Mayer: a purplish county now, parts of it are, but Newport beach is both conservative and rich.
Host Brian Copeland: Uh, let me throw this out to you. Um, the CEO of home Depot was, it was announced today.
Bernie Marcus is, his name has donated a million dollars over a million dollars. To [00:40:00] GOP Congress people who voted not to certify the 2020 election. And he also says that even if Trump is convicted, he will continue to support him vocally and financially. So does that in any way affect your patronage of Home Depot?
You know, knowing that your money that you're giving him is the money that you're spending on that hammer to give him, some of that is going to go towards these election deniers and, and, and, uh, people whose views may not line up with yours.
Lauren Mayer: I've, I've always tried to avoid home Depot and I'm terrible with stuff around the house and I don't know where my hammer is, but I like plants and they have really good plants and that's my big sacrifices.
Yeah. I, especially when I heard about the voting for Trump and. Feeling the election was stolen. Um, it's, it's, that's why my excuse also for not being good at crafting is that I stay away from Hobby Lobby too.
Host Brian Copeland: And my whole thing about eating chicken sandwiches, I'm going to go to Chick fil A. That's it.
That's it. So that lines up with me. [00:41:00] So you're going to Chick fil A? Oh no, I dot, I don't do Chick-fil-A No, ugh.
Don Reed: Specifically because of their Sunday, uh, and, uh, stance with LT lgbtq. I, yeah.
Host Brian Copeland: Specifically for that, for that reason, I always give Ron by, um, uh, hassle because hes, it. Yeah. You know, 'cause Ron Vi, if you, if you watch or listen to the podcast, uh, you know, he's an openly gay comic and, and I'm gone boycotting this place for you.
And he goes, yeah, but their sandwiches are good . And he goes, I have to
Lauren Mayer: say
Host Brian Copeland: my doing is for you.
Lauren Mayer: By that logic, I should avoid in and out because they've always got New Testament quotes on everything and probably a good portion of their money goes to Christian evangelist things. But, but it's a little different because I don't think they're directly supporting Trump and they have the best French fries.
Was
Kate Robards: one of the only companies that didn't, um, agree to like, Raise the minimum wage for their workers or something. There was someone. Yeah, Wendy's and I love their. Yeah, look, we should just [00:42:00] drop out of capitalism. So what's our solution? Because this is exhausting. Capitalism is really wearing me down.
Yeah, right.
Don Reed: We get the fries from this place. And the hamburger from that spot and the drink is, yeah, they supported Obama and this cheesecake you got to get from, uh,
Lauren Mayer: but at least we're not doing, you know, like the equivalent of the Bud Light stuff. We're not going to Home Depot, giving them a bunch of money, buying a bunch of products and then shooting them to show them.
Since then,
Don Reed: since then, you know, um, a kid rock. Was spotted on a yacht with it, but like, and he was the one who lined it up and shot it with a AK 47 against this. But then like, maybe 2 months later, he's on a yacht with a butt light. Like, did
Host Brian Copeland: he forget or was he ran out of bullets or was he posturing? Uh, complete change of subject that is something lighter because it is, it is the holiday season.
Now we are, are in the Christmas season and in the Hanukkah season.
Lauren Mayer: [00:43:00] Um, you don't have to put Hanukkah in there, Brian. Hanukkah is like Arbor day in terms of its significance. It's not important. We have a lot of holidays and I think it's like number 25 in terms of what's important in the Yeah. Hanukkah is so minor.
The only reason it's gotten any attention is because it's the Christmas season and we feel outnumbered and, but that's it. It's minor.
Host Brian Copeland: So, so are you, are you offended if anyone says Merry Christmas to you? Not at
Lauren Mayer: all. I am. I appreciate it. If somebody says happy holidays, just because it's an awareness that, you know, at least I think it's like 8 percent of the country doesn't celebrate Christmas between Jews, Muslims, and Wiccans and a few other folks.
And Jehovah's Witnesses. Right. So I appreciate it. I'm not offended. I also hope that Christians who celebrate Christmas don't consider happy holidays an affront to them. And I play a lot of Christmas gigs. And so, yeah, I'll say Merry Christmas if I'm making money off of a Christmas gig. [00:44:00] Um,
Host Brian Copeland: Capitalism again.
See? There you go. Capitalism . So, so I bring, I bring this up because this, the last couple of years, uh, on, on, uh, social media, this has come up as a, as actually a, a divisive concept. And, and I'm, I'm surprised by this and it is over the movie Love actually. Have you seen love actually? Yes, yes, yes. You've all seen, okay.
And for cel people either love it or they absolutely hate it. They're those who say they watch it every Christmas or they absolutely hate it. And so I, um, actually watched it the other night and after reading all the stuff beforehand, I'm really kind of embarrassed to say that I liked it. I love it. I actually enjoyed it.
Lauren Mayer: I hate it, but not for the reason you think. It's, it's more as a feminist thing because all the men get way younger women and the older women like Emma Thompson don't, they get treated as sad and pathetic. That's my problem. It's not that I hate it. It's still a really well done movie and the actors are amazing, but that's my complaint.
It has nothing to do with whether it's, you know, misappropriating [00:45:00] Christmas or not true to the spirit of Christmas and love is great, but I hate the fact that. It feels like it marginalizes older women and I'm really sensitive to that these
Kate Robards: days. I love that. And I love the movie, but I love that take because I'm like, you know, my Thompson
Lauren Mayer: is hot.
She's hot now when she was hot 30 years ago.
Kate Robards: But even, you know, what is the, um, It's a wonderful life where when she meet George Bailey and she's a librarian and that's
Lauren Mayer: horrible. And the fact that she's a working single woman and that's a bad thing, like Pottersville looks like
Host Brian Copeland: fun. I was going to say, I'd rather live in Pottersville than Bedford Falls.
You know, people are drinking, they're dancing, there's bars open. I mean, I'd rather live there. Falls,
Lauren Mayer: and I don't mean to be Grinch about love, actually. People love that movie and I adore, or they hate it or they hate it, but they usually hate it for the Christmas reason, not for the ageism. So Kate, when you're as, as long as I am, [00:46:00] I
Host Brian Copeland: like that
Don Reed: Lauren.
I, I saw that movie and I, I, I'll go to anything. I'll go to anything by myself. Or with people and I went by myself, I saw that movie and the scene where Emma Thompson realizes that that gift was not for her hit me a ton of bricks. And my wife and I were separated at the time. And it made me set it straight.
I went back in with a different reasoning to not have her be that person. Really resounding, really, really deep. I mean, I bawled in that movie out
Host Brian Copeland: loud. Really? I want to tell people that I admit to liking it, I wouldn't admit to crying during it. Okay, hold on, hold on. What the fuck? I hated that movie. That movie didn't do nothing to me.
Kate Robards: I'm writing a lot of um, holiday rom coms right now because I love holiday rom coms and I'm telling you that's a big one that I'm doing. I'm doing like, I don't like the ageism, one of my, I have a writing partner and she was like trying to put this 40 [00:47:00] year old with a 25 year old. I said, no, I'm not. Go the
Lauren Mayer: other way.
Look at the women. The sheriff's boyfriend is what, like 30 or something. And that's
Kate Robards: also weird to me. I'm not here to judge,
Host Brian Copeland: but let me, let me, let me throw this in for a sec. Jane Fonda, who is 85 years old, did an interview on a podcast that's supposed to drop in the next couple of days in which she said that if she were to take a lover now, uh, he'd have to be 20 years old.
She would not be with a man who was over the age of 20 and she said the main reason is because she doesn't like old skin that that's her words, her words, she doesn't like old skin. So here's my question. How, how young is too young? I always heard that the formula was, it's half your age plus seven. You can do half your age plus seven is as young as you can go.
Lauren Mayer: See, I think formulas make no sense. It just depends on the, you can say it depends on the person. Well, you robbed the cradle though. I, my husband is eight years younger than [00:48:00] I am. That is according to insurance statistics, absolutely perfect. Because after you get over about 40 or 50, women tend to live, live seven or eight years longer.
And that way we don't have to worry about it. We're going to pull a notebook when we're both ready to go, go at the exact same time. And yeah, and other than like I was saying to Brian before, other than having to to my husband that Paul McCartney was in a band before wings and he does not remember Watergate.
And I do, you know, seven, eight years at our age is fine. Um, I, I, the idea of being with somebody who is younger than my grandchildren as Jane Fonda is, I mean, that's, that's weird. And I don't think you want to be with somebody who's younger than your kids or your potential kids. How about same
Host Brian Copeland: age as your kids?
No, saying
Kate Robards: Jane Fonda wasn't saying, uh, marrying, she said a lover, she said a lover.
Host Brian Copeland: That's right. She didn't say Mary. She said a lover. You know, I, I
Don Reed: dated, uh, I tried to date. I tried to date [00:49:00] at 50 years old. I tried to date someone who was 26,
Lauren Mayer: half your age, basically it was a
Host Brian Copeland: disaster
Don Reed: moment. The key moment was when.
Uh, I said, uh, have you ever heard of Tower of Power? And she said, where's that?
Lauren Mayer: And that was it for me. But see, Don, you are also where there are a lot, because I have friends who are on the dating apps who are my age and they're fifties and sixties. And a lot of men who are in their sixties still want 20 and 30 year olds.
No, I'm not interested at all. But you also want to have a conversation.
Don Reed: No. No. All right. Bye. I wanted to get this off balance. I'm way on the way on the, uh, 48 50, 60 67
Lauren Mayer: blade and if Jane Fonda called
Don Reed: and, and, and that is, if you went to my Instagram, it would go, the hair's gray, the sharp in shape
Host Brian Copeland: on point.
That's my I see. If you want your Instagram, you wouldn't know what [00:50:00] Instagram is. Yeah. . That's how old the women are that you wanna date. This has
Kate Robards: reminded
Lauren Mayer: me. Well, I got some women for you, Don, then, because I got some hot friends. One of my
Kate Robards: concepts that I'm, one of my scripts that I'm working on is called The 12 Swipes of Christmas, and it's this challenge, this influencer puts people on challenges to go on 12 dates, and I'm like, instead of just having one couple, it should be the love actually where it attracts all the couples, and we should have age different, we should have a 70 year old woman with a 20 year old man.
And then like I want
Lauren Mayer: or do a romcom based on the golden bachelor. They're finally letting it be okay that older people can date and have I've never missed a single
Don Reed: episode of that show. I've not missed one episode of golden
Host Brian Copeland: back. You love it. You love it. I love it. Now, I've got a story on that, but I pulled this morning and that is this guy is not the, the nice Gary Turner.
And he's not the nice guy that he appears to me and one of the deals is they, they talked to his recent ex, very recent ex. Uh,
Lauren Mayer: not so because I thought he would just [00:51:00] talked about the wife who died and he cries all
Host Brian Copeland: the time. Here's what the deal is. His very, his most recent acts. He started dating a month after his wife died.
She worked for a nonprofit and he called her up because he had a bunch of his wife's clothes. He wanted to donate. Okay, and this is he's only been gone for a month. Why are you giving her clothes and her stuff away? First of all, so he's donating her stuff and he meets this woman. She's 14 years younger and they start to date and eventually she moves in with him and they stand.
Although the stuff starts, you know, fighting over the finances and who's paying what and, you know, the cap off the toothpaste and all the stuff live with somebody. And the final straw, she said, was when me. They were getting ready to go to his high school class reunion and she had put on a couple of pounds and he said, stop, I'm not taking you to my reunion looking like that.
Oh God, talking about her weight, talking about her weight. And that's when she broke up with him. Now, again, this is her side of the story. No, Gary, no, I thought he was good. Oh my God. [00:52:00]
Lauren Mayer: You've just broken Don's heart, Brian,
Kate Robards: you can never have heroes. You can never have heroes.
Don Reed: Well, he wasn't actually a hero.
That's going too far.
Lauren Mayer: I
Host Brian Copeland: mean,
Lauren Mayer: there are, I will say that's horrible and there are plenty I've, I mean, God, my sister's first husband used to give her clothes that were too small for her and say, that's going to look really great on you when you lose 15 pounds. Yeah. Wow. Yes. There's. And that's not I've I've I've never married.
No, actually, my first husband used to tell me I needed more makeup. I mean, there are a lot of men out there like that. See,
Host Brian Copeland: there's a certain stuff. There's certain things you learn. You just don't say I will say.
Kate Robards: One of my favorite things about going to Texas is that, you know, in New York, I'm what you call small town skinny, but in Texas, my family acts like I am emaciated.
They're like, you got to eat something because obesity is so prevalent. I don't know if it's in the state, but in my family,
Lauren Mayer: that Texas side, that's also a Jewish [00:53:00] thing. My, my, my grandmother, you see, you know, I hear I was, you know, in the seventies growing up trying to die. And she was finding common ground, look at that and Texans also, we both have brisket.
I learned this. I just. Finished a whole, I'm doing a
Kate Robards: whole one of my brother came to, um, and I brought him the cats as deli and he, so many times I think he's an idiot and I love him, but I think he's an idiot. But he, when he ordered a pastrami sandwich, which is, you know, delicious brisket, he's like y'all got any barbecue sauce,
Lauren Mayer: but they're connected Kate real quick because Jewish refugees from Russia who were afraid of getting traced 19th century.
They brought brisket. And that's why, that's why Texans barbecue brisket. So Jews and deep South Texans have this bond in common. Lauren,
Kate Robards: that makes so much sense. You're, you're fixing this gap. Cause I always tell people because I'm like, my family has been here forever. Uh, it was, it might be Jewish,
Lauren Mayer: honey.
Do it, do a 23 and me and see if you have any Jewish DNA. I'm all
Kate Robards: [00:54:00] over. I don't, but I like pretty much exclusively date Jewish men. So,
Lauren Mayer: so you got a little Jewish jokes.
Host Brian Copeland: I'm not going to touch inappropriate. That's an underhand lob right over the plate. I'm not going to swing at it. All right. I'm going to, I'm going to close with this.
Um, you know, ever since I was, I turned 50, it's like last year, AARP has like some hookup with social security or something. Because I mean like then my 50th birthday, I started getting crap in the mail. Yeah. And I refuse to use it. I won't use any of the D any, any of the discount stuff. I don't, I don't wanna belong.
I don't want your card. Just quit sending me your crap. When I'm, when I'm a senior citizen. Yeah. When I'm 65 then. Then yes. Even when
Lauren Mayer: you wanna get into the movies for two, even when I wanna get into, I lied last week and told I was already 65, so I got a
Host Brian Copeland: cheaper movie. Well see. That's different though.
'cause that's getting over. Okay, if it's, if it's getting over, I'll do it over and over, but don't, you know, I'm too young for the AARP. [00:55:00] Anyway, they did say this thing today that I thought was interesting and that did really make me feel old. And what the question was, was this, it was, um, how well do you remember these singles that were popular in your formative years?
So from the opening lyrics, can you identify the song? Okay. Okay. Now some of these might be a little old for you, Kate, but you know, pop culture, you know, music, but what, what was on this list for the AARP made me go, God, really? You know, if, if you grew up with this song and you're all right, so I'll start, I'll start to yell it out.
You tell me what the song is. Okay. Here's the, here's the opening lyric. I never meant to, I never meant to cause you any sorrow. I never meant to cause you any pain. I guess I'm not old enough. Can you sing it? I never meant to cause you any sorrow. That's Prince. Okay. What's the song? Uh, I never meant
Don Reed: to call you any,
Host Brian Copeland: um, um, purple rain.
Purple rain.
Lauren Mayer: Very good. That's see, that's, I'm so old, Brian. That's after my time. [00:56:00]
Host Brian Copeland: Okay. How about this one? I don't mind you coming here, wasting all my time because when you're standing, oh, so near, I kind of lose my mind.
I don't know that. Just what I needed by the cars. 1978. Okay. Uh, let's see. How about this one? Um, is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Bohemian Rhapsody.
Lauren Mayer: Queen. Queen. Bohemian Rhapsody.
Host Brian Copeland: Very good. Okay. You got one. Uh, you wake up late for school, man. You don't want to go. You ask your mom, please, but she still says no school's out.
Nope. You got to fight for your right to party the beast boys,
Lauren Mayer: that's after my time Yeah, I thought you was picking some actually
Host Brian Copeland: old songs. Yeah. See that's the thing. These are , these are, they're babies. A a, the A A RP sent me Prince . [00:57:00] Are you kidding? Are you kidding me? Ben e Lewis. Uh.
Lauren Mayer: I know I, I want like, you know, Archie and the Archies, you know, or, or the monkeys.
That's my, my, I remember watching the monkeys in sixth
Host Brian Copeland: grade and see, you know, when, you know, when I was growing up, if all these stations played fifties music, that was oldies. And when you hear your high school songs that are stations, that just sucks. Okay. How about this one? Some boys kiss me. Some boys hug me.
I think they're okay. Okay.
Lauren Mayer: Uh, dat, dat, data,
Host Brian Copeland: material girl. Okay. Madonna. So Madonna is an old, the AARP sent me Madonna. Uh,
Lauren Mayer: 65 Brian. She's, she's my birth year, but her birthday is a few months before mine. You know, I hear
Host Brian Copeland: her. She's great. She's touring. Yeah. They say that the current show is, is great. Now see, you gotta look on your face, Don.
Like really? But they, they say it's, it's a, from what I understand those,
Lauren Mayer: she's an amazing, I
Don Reed: [00:58:00] imagine, I know I would go and have an amazing time, but I probably wanna maybe close my eyes and enjoy it.
Lauren Mayer: No, she's, she's had enough come to
Kate Robards: comedy, comedy club that I perform at sometimes. Madonna is, I see my show, but she's been, she's been like seen at the stand in New York City before.
Host Brian Copeland: You know who I want to see? And I, and I, another thing I usually won't say publicly, I won't admit to publicly is, uh, I'd like to see Taylor Swift.
Lauren Mayer: So I have to tell you, cause I'm of the generation that my friend's daughters are Swifties and, and I don't have daughters. So I didn't have that growing up with them, but I have two friends who went with their daughters and did the whole thing.
Like couldn't get tickets here, went other cities and went, my, my friend, who's, who's a lawyer and smart and loves classical music. She said it was one of the best concerts she'd ever seen. And she does a different set list in every city. Wow. She checked three and a half hours.
Host Brian Copeland: What are they getting for tickets?
Because [00:59:00] it's ridiculous, right? Oh, well,
Lauren Mayer: if you buy them at list, it's a couple 300, but you can't because they were sold out in like less than a minute. So in the movie theaters now, yeah, that's all good. I'm
Host Brian Copeland: deeply
Don Reed: impressed by her politics. I'm deeply impressed by our policies. That's going to be a major, major impact as we move along in this election cycle, because people who would otherwise not even think about voting are listening to her.
Lauren Mayer: And Beyonce is the other one.
Don Reed: Kylie Jenner is another major factor
Lauren Mayer: as well. And Beyonce
Kate Robards: is a little bit older, but Taylor Swift, because the Nashville crazy woman who was running for Congress a couple of years ago, and she ended up winning and, um, you know, she was for overturning and Taylor Swift. Defied, you know, we have got the Dixie chicks who, you know, dead to country music and you've got this like little princess of country music and they tried to tell her don't talk politics.
You're going to alienate them. And she said, no, and they lost. And she was like, but these kids who [01:00:00] are listening to me are going to be voting in the next. She put out
Lauren Mayer: a PSA and it wasn't even partisan, it was just saying register to vote, which pissed off the right wing, which tells you what they think about voting.
But it caused like something like a 500 percent spike in registration. It was the
Host Brian Copeland: first, the first day it was over 13, 000 Gen Zers. Registered to vote. That was just the first day, the first day that it ran. I think she put it out over Twitter is what she did.
Kate Robards: Forces in our economy, you know, they're like,
Lauren Mayer: let's oh, she changes the economy in every city that she goes to.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Uh, all right. One final one. And, uh, and then we'll call it a wrap. Uh, let's see. Okay. How about this one? She's got a smile that it seems to me, reminds me of childhood memories where everything was as fresh as the bright blue sky. She's got a smile that it seems to me, reminds me [01:01:00] of childhood memories where everything was as fresh as the bright blue sky.
And this one, I didn't know. Just to
Don Reed: be talking. I'll say Sarah smile, but as know it's not
Host Brian Copeland: correct. Everybody give up.
Lauren Mayer: Trying to think. Layla,
Host Brian Copeland: I don't know. Guns and Roses. Sweet child of mine. Oh, the A A RP sent me. That's a Guns and Roses. . Guns and Roses. The A A RP. That sounds
Kate Robards: old to me. I'm not gonna lie.
Roses is like a little old
Host Brian Copeland: to me. Oh, man. Well, that hurts. Thank you. I'll be breaking my hip by the time we're done with the podcast. All right. Where is everybody playing? We'll start with you, Kate. Where are you in New York right now? You're headed to Texas. Yeah, but I'm going to
Kate Robards: be in Austin at Cap City opening up for Derek Drasher, my boyfriend, on the eighth and the ninth.
So I'm featuring for him. So if you're in Austin, Texas, and then I'll be in Houston on [01:02:00] the seventh. Uh, yeah, they're on my, it'll be all on my Instagram.
Host Brian Copeland: Okay. What, what, where can people find your Instagram
Kate Robards: at Kate Robards? That's it.
Host Brian Copeland: That's me. Okay. Lauren,
Lauren Mayer: I've got a live stream on Sunday on my Facebook page, Lauren Mayer comedy songs, and I'm playing a bunch of Christmas parties and I'll have a song coming out Friday on YouTube.
My YouTube channel is Psycho Supermom about either George Santos being expelled or not. And then I'll be bringing my don't mind me. I'll sit here in the dark Jewish mother's show to a synagogue or a Jewish community center near you
Host Brian Copeland: soon. Awesome. Don, you got a lot of stuff going on.
Don Reed: Yes, uh, tomorrow night is the first night of Redwood Nights at Deer Park Villa, a one of a kind storytelling night that's outdoors tucked in the Redwoods with wonderful heat lamps, blankets, and red wine, uh, stories that are funny.
And moving and all [01:03:00] true I'll host that night. I need, uh, some of y'all to be on there. Um, yeah, a bit bright redwood night. You'll find it really easy. One of the city, what
Host Brian Copeland: city is this in? That's in Fairfax,
Don Reed: California on Bolinas road. Uh, then every Tuesday night I'm producing all pro comedy night. In, uh, Fairfax as well.
And then this weekend and for only five more shows, I'm doing a East 14th, 14th birthday at the Marsh in Berkeley. There's five shows and it will be
Host Brian Copeland: audio. So it's a great show. Don's first show is 14th street. Wonderful, wonderful show. All right. Uh, and I want to mention that, uh, it's, it's Christmas season.
So I am doing what the annual Christmas show I do. The jewelry box is, uh, is coming to a number of different places. Um, uh, go to briancopeland. com and, uh, the list of all the places is there. I think I'm doing like about a dozen performances at, at, uh, as many theaters over the course of, uh, of the month of December.
So Laura Mayer, Don Reed, Kate Robarts, thanks for being [01:04:00] with us. Appreciate it. Oh, thanks for having us. Thank you so much. That's going to do it for this week. We'll check you out next week. Yes. Be safe in Texas. Kate. Watch what you say. And we can't be safe.
Lauren Mayer: Don't tell gun jokes. No,
Host Brian Copeland: don't don't tell gun control jokes.
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