Guests this week: Ngaio Bealum, Tony Camin & Dan St. Paul
This week's edition of Copeland's Corner, with featured Guests Ngaio Bealum, Tony Camin & Dan St. Paul.
In this episode, Brian and the crew have a lively discussion spanning political and social themes. They analyze the vice presidential debate, touching on real-time fact-checking, moderator responsibilities, and the balance of style versus substance in politics. The conversation expands to Elon Musk's controversial acquisition of Twitter and its effects on platform value, free speech, and moderation. They also talk power in the entertainment industry, referencing Kathy Griffin and Diddy, and its cultural repercussions. Additionally, ethical dilemmas are discussed through anecdotes about found money, sparking reflections on honesty and morality.
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EP186 - Copeland's Corner with Ngaio Bealum, Tony Camin & Dan St. Paul
Host Brian Copeland: [00:00:00] Hello again, this is Brian Copeland talking. Welcome to episode number 186 of, uh, of Copeland's Cornerback, our second week after taking the summer off to kind of rejigger the show. You can see I built a whole new set behind me. Uh, as usual, I've got a group of distinguished comics who are ready to join me to talk about some of the news of the week.
Uh, we record this on Wednesdays and we drop it on Thursdays. So last night was Tuesday, which was the night of the vice presidential debate. So we got lots and lots to talk about. So let's bring in our panel. Uh, joining us this week, three of my buddies, uh, three funny, funny, but very, very intelligent.
People ask me why I have comics on us because comics are smart. Comics always know what's going on and have got to take on it that you may not have thought of, uh, when it, when it comes to the news and the things happening in the world. Uh, Tony Kameen joins us for the very first time. Tony, I've not seen you [00:01:00] in forever.
Where are you?
Tony Camin: I'm
Host Brian Copeland: in Los Angeles here. You're in Los Angeles. What are you doing in Los Angeles these days? Uh, today I do a podcast, great podcast, my friend, Brian, so you're working for free down in LA. That's good for free.
Tony Camin: And we're good friends. That's why I'm on a hundred took me to 186 episodes to be on this show.
Host Brian Copeland: I will have you on more depending on how you do today. St. Paul has not been on forever. It's good to see you, Dan. Good to be here. You're at my house. I was going to say, Dan has got the nicest digs, apparently, of the four of us. So, uh, that's a, that's a, that's a very active. And I know you didn't design that.
I know your wife designed to pick all that out. Absolutely.
Dan St Paul: I had nothing to do with this. I just, she just plopped me in this room.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Your decisions were cash or charge. Those were your decisions, probably. Yes, exactly. We've got Engyle
Ngaio Bealum: Beelum, uh, back with us. How are you doing? Hello, everyone. How are you?
Welcome back. I'm feeling very [00:02:00] moody. I'm in my Scorpio era. You got mood lighting.
Host Brian Copeland: You got mood lighting going on right now. All right. Let's jump into it. Well, let's jump into it because there's a lot to talk about. Um, did you guys catch the debate last hour or at least catch coverage of it or snippets of it or news from it today?
I'm assuming.
Dan St Paul: I caught the last two thirds. I missed the first half hour.
Host Brian Copeland: Okay, we get a missing thing. I'm here to talk about the future. Yeah, we're just here to talk about the future. I'm here to
Ngaio Bealum: talk about the future.
Dan St Paul: We're here to talk about the future.
Ngaio Bealum: That debate and the presidential debate gave me two new ways to avoid responsibility.
First of all, I have the concept of a plan. And I'm here to talk about the future. Talk does not cook rice.
Host Brian Copeland: All right, just a cow. I'll give you a couple of my thoughts and then I'll open it up. Um, because of course everybody's talking about who won based on the CNN's [00:03:00] poll. There was no clear winner. Uh, Politico's poll is, uh, calls it a draw, uh, although 58 percent of, uh, independents say the Waltz won.
However, the majority of independents didn't watch. Um, if I've got to choose, I'm going to say the advanced one on style. Based on style, but, but, but, uh, waltz won based on, uh, on substance content. So, uh, variety's calling, uh, you know it, and this is scary. He is calling Vance Reaganesque in terms of how he presented himself last night.
I mean, he, he told a lot of lies. He did. He, you know, he a lot of crap. That wasn't true. And my favorite line of the night is, wait a minute, you're not supposed to be fast checking. I thought the rules . Exactly. That was mine too.
Dan St Paul: That was mine too. I love, wait a minute. Hey, we, this ain't fear. I was told I could lie.
This is You can't turn the tables on me like that. Let me ask you
Host Brian Copeland: this question. Do you think that it is the role of a moderator in a debate to fact check while in [00:04:00] real time?
Dan St Paul: Yes. How else would the viewer know whether what's being said is true or not?
Tony Camin: It's just a speech if it's not fact checked. It's just part of a speech.
It's not real Well,
Host Brian Copeland: except for the opponent to, to to fact check. You would think. 'cause otherwise the problem is it's that no. '
Ngaio Bealum: cause then it just, then it just evolves into, to an argument. Well, you're entitled to your own facts. And I have my own facts. Here's the alternative facts are supposed to have a neutral person who's paying attention.
This is the role of journalism. If a, if a politician tells you that it's raining outside, you don't just say, well, he said it's raining. You go fucking outside and see if it's raining. And then you come back and like reports say that that is true.
Tony Camin: Or
Ngaio Bealum: you check your app
Tony Camin: to see if it's right. Or
Ngaio Bealum: you check your, whatever.
You're supposed to check on these politicians. Like Barry Weintraub used to say, These guys are the best liars in their division. Right? In their division. I love that. In their division. They're the top two liars in their division. So politicians lie, and Republican politicians don't. [00:05:00] Dude, they're loose.
They're loose with the facts. And so, especially in this day and age of digital ridiculousness and propaganda, you have to check them. You have to check them on real time. You have to check them right away. And that's how it is. And that's how it should be there. This, this isn't even, it's not even a question.
Well, here's why. It,
Host Brian Copeland: here's, here's, here's why. Here's why it's a question, and I'll, I'll understand this because I agree. By the way, I'm gonna tell you, I agree with you on, on substance. That, that in fact, they, I they should be fact checking if you're gonna lie and say that Haitian immigrant, illegal immigrants are eating, are eating people's pets, and it's obviously a lie.
However, what about the charges that you get that since you, you fact check that candidate more than that candidate. So therefore, as a moderator, you were biased that, that, that's Trump's uh, line from his debate. Was that basically it was three against one?
Dan St Paul: Well, I think they have to immediately say point out that we're we're just the we're just the uh, the truth That's that we represent the [00:06:00] truth.
So if we hear something that is false and being portrayed as the truth, we're going to call you on it. And I think we really haven't had this problem in political debates until the Trump era, you know, it wasn't until there was out and out lies and he didn't care about the truth that this is started.
Otherwise they were usually. Pretty civil, you know, but now because of so many lies on the Republican side, especially in the Trump, it's like, it's just a deflection game. It's like, you asked me a question. I'm going to deflect it and go to my narrative. That's what that seems to be.
Ngaio Bealum: And what kind of B. S.
is. Uh, well, we told a lot of lies and you checked us on every single one and our opponent only told a lie or two And you only checked them on two like that. That's ridiculous If if we're fact checking you more than the other guy stop freaking lying. How hard is that? That's one of those things we're like, well, well, you [00:07:00] know, uh, we got 15 fouls the other team only got five fouls Stop fouling.
Dan St Paul: Yeah, I'm getting
Host Brian Copeland: some points instead
Dan St Paul: of fouls.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, here's, here's the difference how it used to be and all politicians lie. And I would, I like the way while Obama explained this, because all politicians lie, they all lie or mislead, or we'll say things that are out of context. The difference is, is that with these people, when they lie and you call them on it, they double down on the lie.
As opposed to what would normally happen is you lie, you get caught and know that's not true. Here's the evidence that what you said is not true. Oh, okay. I misspoke. I made a mistake. I got the wrong information. And you move on. Whereas these people will say, no, one plus one is three. That that's also your liberal.
Tony Camin: Start blaming the source of the information. You know, start putting mistrust in the institutions, journalism and stuff, you know, fake news, all this, not even saying doubling down, but like, oh, what you're saying, you know, [00:08:00] who are you to say this is true, you know, and then also
Ngaio Bealum: just
Tony Camin: the
Ngaio Bealum: JD events, uh, uh, yesterday say peace through strength a couple of times.
I don't know. I mean that an old nazi slogan. Was he also going to say work makes you free?
Host Brian Copeland: I don't remember saying that wouldn't surprise
me.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Um, I I will tell you this and this is a conversation that's going on today and that is Do you think that this debate was too nice?
That they were too civil with each other. I, I found it refreshing to be quite honest with you, even though I, I don't, you know, believe a word that comes out of Vance's mouth. I mean, he's told you he'll lie if it'll bring attention to what he wants you to bring attention to. But the fact of the matter is I like the fact that, um, that it's like it used to be.
I mean, it was an informal debate. I mean, no, afterwards they're shaking hands, they're introducing each other, each other's wives, you know, as opposed to, you know, saying somebody's evil or, or, you know, mentally unstable or, you know, what [00:09:00] is it he's calling Kamala, saying she's mentally deranged or some such nonsense.
Tony Camin: Yeah. I thought it was refreshing too. It did remind me of the old days. Oh, my, my esteemed Senator from blah, blah, blah. And now it's like, you're eating cats, are you, you know, she's full of shit, they say this stuff, and it's just like, whoa, because I think at the end of the day, you're like, oh, this, we are all Americans, and they're kind of proving it by shaking hands and being cordial that, hey, there are, we're together in the long run.
I think it conveys that warmth a little bit of fellow Americans.
Dan St Paul: I would like, I would have liked to seen a little bit more humor, you know, like at one point, maybe Waltz would have said, Hey, we want to invite you and Usha over for dinner tonight. We're having poodle, you know, something like that. I'll invite my couch.
Yeah, and we have a brand new couch. I got a nice couch, we'd like
Ngaio Bealum: to meet it.
Dan St Paul: Please excuse the plastic wrap around the couch.
Host Brian Copeland: No, that's a safe couch. ,
Dan St Paul: safe couch. That's right. Compromised our couch.
Ngaio Bealum: I guess the [00:10:00] civility was okay. And, and I think that, uh, that Tim Walls did a great job with the question of, uh, did Donald Trump lose in 2020?
Yes.
Host Brian Copeland: Yes. That said, knock punch, talk about the
Ngaio Bealum: future by bringing up some shit from the past. By the way, he's like, I'm here to talk about the future. Didn't Kamala Harris do some things a while ago? Like so. Uh, I thought that that was a good point. He, he made a good point on that. I, I, I have to admire Tim Walz's diplomacy and civility.
Yes. Uh, it would be hard for me to not just smooth cuss him the smooth cuss out.
Tony Camin: He also has such a punchable face. I mean, he just has a punch.
Ngaio Bealum: You know, he got
Dan St Paul: punched a lot when he was in school.
Ngaio Bealum: I try not to judge people on their appearance because it's something that they can't control. Like I'll make fun of the way you dress.
Cause you control that unless you're really poor. Then, then I have sympathy, but. J. D. Vance's eyes are very beady and very close together. And [00:11:00] it just bothers me.
Dan St Paul: It is kind of, yeah.
Ngaio Bealum: It just bothers me with his little beady, close together, My Chemical Romance eyes. I don't really know, uh, It's just from jump, from jump.
I would not want that guy to be my lawyer. He's the definition of smart.
Dan St Paul: It's not very trustworthy. I
Host Brian Copeland: don't like this. I, you know, he's, he's an empty vessel. That's the thing that bothers me the most. Yeah. I mean, you can't go from this guy's Hitler to defending him two years later. Whatever you want me to say, I'll say they offer you
Ngaio Bealum: money and power.
You can do it. Listen, we, we know that money and power does weird things to people,
right?
Ngaio Bealum: And he's throwing his immigrant wife under the bus. Yeah. Yeah. You saw her. She doesn't get to, she doesn't get to go to the rallies. She doesn't get to hang out. No. It's like a, uh, an open secret that he's married to a brown woman.
You know what's
Host Brian Copeland: interesting? It's interesting to me too, is they're so anti immigrant, he and Trump and both of them are, are, are married to immigrants, both of them. That's right. They both have wives [00:12:00] who were born in another country, you know, so it's, it's, you know, I, I'll take something interesting. I, I, I did, um, a show Don Reed, who's a, a very funny comic who's, who's done the, done the, the podcast a lot, um, does this, uh, this storytelling, uh, show up in, uh, in Marin County.
And he had this comic and I, uh, by the name of Bo, I can't think of his last name. Uh, and he a storyteller. He is been on, uh, uh, on NPRA lot. Great, great, great, great, great. Perform The Moth. He's on all the time. And he's from Kentucky. Um, he is from, uh, hazard Kentucky, uh, and the people there hate JD Vance after reading Hillbilly elegy, because of the fact that he was saying, you know, if, if, if you mentioned his name, um, you know, he goes, my hair sets on fire because I lived there.
And basically he was a tourist.
He
Host Brian Copeland: was a tourist. He came in from Ohio. He visited his grandparents and apparently the town where his grandparents lived in London, Kentucky, while it's not Beverly Hills. [00:13:00] It's if, if you live in London, Kentucky, you're considered the whole boy. You're doing all right.
Basically. Yeah. And so here you got a guy who belonged, he lived in Ohio, who belonged to a golf club, who went to Yale, who's now who's made millions of dollars by bad mouthing a place where he summered Right. You know, and, you know, and he just got another deal, you know, another book deal based on the first one.
Yeah. If your first book does well, they offer you a, a, a brick truck for the second one before it's written. He's got an $8 million book deal for a second one
Ngaio Bealum: now.
Right.
Ngaio Bealum: And also the hypocrisy of taking advantage of food stamps and the GI bill and a bunch of other federal government. Yeah. Right. Mm-Hmm.
as he did. And then he's gonna try to turn around and pull the ladder up from behind him. You know, that whole, I got mine, you get yours vibe. It's not, we don't, we don't teach compassion or empathy. We don't teach sharing as Americans. We teach, I, you know, I mean, I'm down for rugged individualism. I'm I'm a fan, but you have to balance that [00:14:00] with community effort and collective work and responsibility.
And these guys don't seem to understand any of that. It was funny that you say that
Host Brian Copeland: it's funny that you make that statement, considering the fact that all four of us. Make our living by ourselves. Yeah, we are all standing on it with the money five ways. We're all standing. Yeah, we're all standing on a stage by ourselves to make our, but there's no collective work and responsibility here.
We stand on a stage and hold a mic and we all work alone. There is collective
Ngaio Bealum: responsibility. You expect the venue to have a nice spot for you. Expect the microphone to be good.
Yeah. You expect to see
Ngaio Bealum: the event to be nice. You know what I mean? You're a collective professional. You're working together. You expect the wait staff to do their jobs.
You expect everybody to work together to get this thing done, right? Sure. You're ostensibly the star. You're the guy standing in front of the stage, but it's a team. It's a team to get all that shit together.
Yeah.
Ngaio Bealum: You know, especially if you have an agent, I mean, I don't, if any agents would like to talk to [00:15:00] me about this after the show, we can, we can talk about it.
But um, Yeah. Absolutely. But it's always, it's always, you know, listen, I, I do drugs. So the shit is interconnected. We are all interdependent. You understand that? That's not a hippie dippy thing. That's not a woo thing. The, we, we are all together collectively in this and we should all be working collectively to make it smooth for everybody.
There's enough to go around. And this idea of scarcity and, Oh, we don't have enough money to make sure children get enough to eat, but we have enough money to kill. Thousands of people halfway around the world, right? Bugs me and irks me and it,
uh,
Host Brian Copeland: very heavy right now. You know what pissed me off last night?
Um, was the fact that Vance kept blaming. Um, undocumented residence for the housing crisis. . Yeah. And, and, and, and, and here's the thing that nobody talks about, uh, and, and that there are several companies as well as individuals [00:16:00] who in 2008 bought thousand. The guy, you know, you ever heard of the book? Rich Dad?
Poor Dad? Yeah. The guy who wrote that book claims that he owns 15,000 single family residences in America. that he was able to buy in foreclosure using FHA loans and all this, Sean Hannity has using government funds, by the way, FHA loans, he owns thousands of single family homes in, uh, across the Midwest and places in the Midwest.
And so, you know, they, they say there are certain neighborhoods that if you go to the hall of records and look at the deeds and stuff in terms of ownership, all the ownerships are just the address of the place in an LLC. That's it because, and so that's where the scarcity is when you got a guy who's allowed to own 15, 000 single family residences.
And that's why I, you know, I, I have a younger members of my family want to buy their first home and you can't get into an entry level home. You can't, and it's not just here in California, which is ridiculous, but you know, most places you can't get into an entry level home. That's why there's [00:17:00] scarcity.
Dan St Paul: And there's also this thing, a real page. I, are you familiar with them? Yeah, this is an organization that through algorithms figures out what people should be able to afford in that area for that apartment and they work with the property managers and the owners and what not to make sure that that's What they what they charge and so the price to stay artificially high, uh, isn't it a price fixing?
Oh, yeah. No, they're being
Ngaio Bealum: sued by the doj right now as a matter of fact for some antitrust and for some price fixing Uh, this is one of those things where? You you know, you get deep into the capitalism model walter mosley wrote. Uh, A novel or maybe a short story science fiction story years and years ago And the whole thing was Uh, no one owned anything.
You rented everything. So even if you got a job, you rented your apartment and then you would have to rent furniture from these other guys. You'd have to rent this from these other guys. And that's [00:18:00] really the model that they want. They don't want anybody to own a record, right? You have to give Spotify your money.
You don't get to own your PlayStation five games. You just download them from the thing and they can take them from you. Anytime they want this whole concept of ownership has become a thing where the companies get to own everything and you just get to rent everything from them. And that's BS. Well, let me, let me ask you this.
You told us not to cuss too much. So I'm going to say BS a lot. Yeah. You said BS.
Dan St Paul: You said that that's, that's really, that's, that's open the line. Quite frankly. Uh, but it's Baird.
Host Brian Copeland: Then since you were, since you were all, or we are all creatives, let me ask you about this. Then it turned about the terms of ownership.
Do you have, have you, any of you, um, in any way protected your IP? Uh, have you, have you trademarks material that you've written? Have you copied anything? Individual penis? Yeah. I'm sorry. Intellectual property. You mean like
Tony Camin: script registering scripts with the guild and stuff like that?
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Yeah. Or, [00:19:00] or just, or the standup.
I've done that. Even standup, just that
Tony Camin: level. Just that level. I have done just that level. And then with record contracts for standup, you, you, you sell some portion for certain distribution. You, you know, there's a certain percentage for a certain amount of time. So I've done those types, but that's about it.
Dan St Paul: Yeah, I haven't done any of that.
Host Brian Copeland: It's amazing how creatives get screwed over. That's why in terms of ownership things That's why I read an article, but I guess it's that what is it the 20th the 30th anniversary of the Blair Witch Project? I think it might be 30th anniversary of the Blair Witch Project and the three stars of that film Who were nobodies who did this indie film and did it for what was supposed to be a percentage, and they got a little bit of money and then just went on to be the most, uh, the most profitable independent film in history.
That's made millions of millions of dollars. It's a franchise. And, uh, one of the guys who's driving Uber. Yeah. Yeah. One of the three stars is driving Uber. Uh, the Heather Donahue. Is that her name? The woman? Uh, she's like waiting tables or [00:20:00] something. Well, all these other people got, got rich, you know, and I hear the same story about the music industry all the time.
Ngaio Bealum: And that's also one of those things are like, that's a human nature thing. We do not teach sharing the wealth. We do not teach. If I eat my team eats. Right? These guys, it's just exploitation. You make this movie, Hey man, we're making this independent film. It's not a lot of money, but it's gonna be a good time.
You know, it's a credit, blah, blah, blah. You do that, and then it blows up, and the producers make a bunch of cash, and they don't go, Hey, listen, your contract was kind of weird. Let me break you off a chunk, dog. We did hella good. We couldn't have done it without you. Right? You guys were the stars. I'm just gonna break you off a chunk out of what I got.
I know the contract was weird, but just have some cash, man Have some things we don't do any of that You just think it's too bad you shouldn't negotiate a better contract Like you
Tony Camin: said earlier, uh and guy power corrupts like billy bob thornton when he first did that sling bag short He promised everybody bro, you know, and then [00:21:00] you get that deal You know, the label just wants to sign me the singer and then things kind of change around a little bit, a little bit.
Wait, wait. So
Host Brian Copeland: Sling Blade, he didn't, he didn't live up to his, his obligations to the, to the
Tony Camin: actors and stuff? Yeah, yeah. He did a short before the movie, we all know it was like a little 10 minute thing and he promised everybody roles and you'll get a producer. And then when he got the deal distributed, or the deal, he didn't, he didn't, most of the people were cut out.
Yeah. For bigger names, you know?
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah, I saw Coming to America, believe it or not, for the first time. I never saw Coming to America. Whoa, really? Yeah, I didn't avoid it deliberately. I just like never got around to it. And it's, uh, it is a millennial friend of mine's favorite film. And, um, I asked her if she knew about the Art Buchwald thing and what, you guys all know the story about what, what, what it was that they pulled, you know, they, it was for those who were not familiar.
It was Art Buchwald. Um, the columnist writer, uh, wrote a 12 [00:22:00] page treatment Uh, and send it to somebody at Paramount, they passed on it, and then they made Coming to America based on this 12 pages. So he sued, he was awarded a percentage of the profits, the movie made 300 million dollars, and this is like 300 million 1980s dollars.
So this is like in the billions today, and, uh, they said the movie hadn't made a profit. And then they showed that that was there. They didn't have to pay Buckwold because he didn't make a profit. Then they showed how Hollywood accounting works. And it's, it's just ridiculous, you know. Um, I was reading James Garner's book and he's talking about how he had to sue, uh, over the Rockford files because he was supposed to be getting the percentage of profits.
They were saying there's no profits at the top 10 show.
Ngaio Bealum: Oh, there's no profit. That show was syndicated almost as much as the Lucy show.
Host Brian Copeland: Here's
Ngaio Bealum: what he
Host Brian Copeland: found.
Ngaio Bealum: You can watch the Rockford files right now.
Host Brian Copeland: Here's what he found. He, he, he was looking at the expenses they were charging. And there was a guy whose job it was to [00:23:00] take the film every day that they shot the dailies and take it to the processing lab in Burbank, a half a mile away or a mile away from where it was, they were shooting and they were billing, uh, the, the studio was billing his production company 5, 000 every day for that guy to drive that film.
Ngaio Bealum: For half a mile or for a mile. I wonder what they're paying. That guy, he wasn't getting four $4,500 off of that . I love for my to be $5,000.
Dan St Paul: Wow.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Yeah. I want that
Dan St Paul: guy's job. Yeah.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. I want that. Yeah. I want, you know.
Ngaio Bealum: Right. Working. You can get it.
Dan St Paul: Stu
Ngaio Bealum: take, he's acting like he goes to work every day.
what's my motivation? $5,000. That's motivation.
Dan St Paul: I'm gonna get on my bike and go. .
Host Brian Copeland: Alright, so, so, so I, I will, I will end this topic with this then. Okay. So everybody's saying it's a draw. Uh, it's not a draw record. Both. Okay. Who? It's not a draw opinion.
Dan St Paul: Who
Host Brian Copeland: won? Who
Dan St Paul: won? I [00:24:00] don't think anybody won. I don't think, I don't think they moved the needle either way.
I don't think, I don't think he can say there was a clear winner or a loser.
Ngaio Bealum: I would say that Tim Waltz won just because he got JD Vance. Two. Uh, waffle on did Donald Trump lose the election or not? So that's automatically a win. And I think that was the biggest. Needle moving point for independence and people who care about, although
Dan St Paul: he could have gone after and there were opportunities missed.
He could have gone after him for a lot of stuff when they brought up project 2025,
Ngaio Bealum: they should have let me do the debate cause I would have been in his ass. I would have been all on JD. There's so many ways you could have got that guy for his blatant hypocrisy and ridiculousness. I
Tony Camin: agree with Brian's initial, uh, Review.
I thought, I thought just in looks, it was almost a reverse of, of the earlier debate, I thought, where, uh, Kamala looked like she had the upper hand. She wasn't getting pulled in the weeds and not on the reactive defensive side. And it [00:25:00] looked just by appearances, the reversed last night. But I think, I think, uh, Vance came off better than he had.
And then I thought he would. And, uh, but I thought was low. Waltz has more substantive answers. And I think he's sort of. Got his rhythm at the end and that last blow about the, the, the election. I thought really, but we're all, we're all having, we all have a bias. So it is just opinion. Like you said, it doesn't really move.
And, you know, these things are all really opinion. There's no score official score. So, you know, we're just echo chambering here. But, uh, you know, at first I was a little, I was a little bummed, but then at the end, I was like, overall, you get, you know, you sleep on it and stuff and you realize, Oh, I thought, I thought it was.
In our view, I thought it was pretty even, but I thought Waltz again on substance, which I, but I thought Biden even went on substance. So, you know, so sure. So
Ngaio Bealum: Americans care about substance. Again,
Tony Camin: everybody says these things aren't about it. It's like, who comes off? It's like, Oh, I want, I like them better. I want to, I believe they see I want a beer.
I want to have a beer. And they seem capable. That's
Ngaio Bealum: the thing [00:26:00] though. Like you would have a beer with Tim Walton. You would cover your beer. If JD Vance was next.
Dan St Paul: You would not go to the bathroom,
Ngaio Bealum: bro. You take it with you. You'd be like, I don't want to take my beard in this stinky ass bathroom and leave it next to your funky ass.
Tony Camin: And, you know, Vance would be going to the bathroom to reapply that mascara. Right, right. It's
Ngaio Bealum: not about him and Derek Carr have the same vibe.
He's trying to make his small beady eyes look bigger.
Dan St Paul: I guess that's what it is, huh? Is that what it is? It makes it look deeper. You know, more sunken in. I don't know. I was disappointed that both went very safe and had the double Windsor knot on their ties.
Ngaio Bealum: I think the double Windsor is an excellent choice.
Dan St Paul: I think it's an excellent choice for mid America. But if you want to look a little bit more, you know, metro sexual, you go with the single.
Host Brian Copeland: I like the single. I can only do a half Windsor. It's called a half Windsor. Oh, that's the only one I can
do. You're like a
Tony Camin: red [00:27:00] breasted nippy tube. That's a real, it's from England.
I'll
Tony Camin: explain that one later.
Ngaio Bealum: You don't rock the four in hand. You don't do the four in hand, uh, Tony Kameen. You just rock the double Windsor, the full Windsor. I like a full Windsor knot. I'm not gonna lie.
Dan St Paul: I like to see an Ascot every now and then.
Ngaio Bealum: I wear an Ascot. So
Dan St Paul: do you wear an Ascot? You see me, he leaves.
Tony Camin: I like a monocle and an Ascot .
Host Brian Copeland: You know that a story with, with with, with Bud Friedman and, and the monocle. Yes. Yeah. You know, he, well, his boy, he's. It's like, it's like a trademark thing. And apparently the, I don't know if this is true or not, I've heard it from comics of the improv that, that the reason that, that he has a monocle is because he did some movie, some little movie like in the early seventies and his character wore a monocle and so he, he started doing it so that he could be recognized from being in the, the guy being in the, Hey, you're the guy with the,
Ngaio Bealum: yes, I am.
Dan St Paul: No talent and [00:28:00] the monocle. aren't peanut got talent enough,
Ngaio Bealum: his talent laying, opening comedy clubs and getting shit on tv, that is a whole different talent, right? That's right. That's, I mean, we've all got skills, right? Yes. Uh, uh, you know, once again, it's teamwork. You work together, you gotta work with that guy so you can get your thing on the thing.
What do they say if you're, if you're funny and likable, you're a comic. If you're funny and not likable, you're a writer. If you're likable and not funny, you're the DJ. And if you're not likable and not funny, you own the club. Now look,
Tom
Dan St Paul: Sawyer, it's hilarious. I'm staying muted. I see. I'll never
work in cop.
Host Brian Copeland: You know, the thing is, Well, you'll get your plug at the end. Just hang on. I'm sorry. I will get your plug at the end. But the other thing that continues to drive me crazy is, you know, you know, Kamala Harris [00:29:00] says she's going to do this, that, and the other thing.
Well, she's had three and a half years. Why didn't she do it? Do you guys know what the vice president? Does, you know, you're running for vice president. Do you know what the job entails? It entails pretty much going to funerals, standing in at ceremonial things for the president and sitting around in case the president coughs.
I think she did this podcast
Tony Camin: a couple of times, right? I think she's done this podcast a couple of times. I mean, she
Host Brian Copeland: was a regular. She used to do my radio show all the time when she was the VA of San Francisco. So
Dan St Paul: that's a nice thing all the time.
Ngaio Bealum: It's funny how these cats, uh, don't have, uh, Concept of high school physics, right?
We don't, there's no schoolhouse rock anymore. You don't get to know the civil song. Not
Host Brian Copeland: physics, not physics, civics. Oh, I meant to
Ngaio Bealum: say civics. Did I say civics? Or English apparently. That's cause, that's cause you do drugs. Like you say. Yeah, listen, uh, I'm very civil in my, I don't know. I lost that thread, but [00:30:00] no, it's high school civics, man.
Do you know? Yeah, exactly. Do you know what the role of the, of the vice president is? You're here to break ties in the Senate and to take over. Somebody dies and go to funerals and weddings. Yeah. And that's it. And so the, his whole pounding of the, you had three and a half years to change shit and you haven't done it, which is not necessarily true because the Biden administration has gotten a lot of things done, more things done than the Trump administration did for sure.
Tony Camin: And they had four years previous to do things, which they didn't do.
Ngaio Bealum: And, uh, also JD Vance, why are you on this podium? What happened to Mike Pence? Something happened. Is there a reason he's not here? Uh, did you ever in
Host Brian Copeland: your life that could be on the same side as Dick Cheney, the same side of an issue as Dick and Liz Cheney of anything?
I never thought. I never thought I'd be in that tier. It's like if that saying is
Tony Camin: true, politics and bedfellows, you're like, Jesus, what a [00:31:00] crazy thing. You wake up in bed next to goddamn Dick Cheney. That's how serious it is. It takes a
Dan St Paul: megalomaniac to bring them, bring us all together.
Ngaio Bealum: It's, it's, the Republicans should be embarrassed that Dick Cheney has to stump for Kamala Harris.
They should be embarrassed as a team and as a group. They shouldn't be mad at Dick. Whatever
Dan St Paul: real Republicans are left, yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fact that,
Host Brian Copeland: that we're, we're under the, I was here reading a thing today about the strange bedfellows. So you got, you got Dick Chaney and Taylor Swift. Yeah. What you get throw at the safe side.
Yeah. You got
Ngaio Bealum: Chaney, the Dick Taylor ticket. It's one of those things, looking to the future though, like the, the way the Republicans are going, they, they're not gonna have much left. And the, and the Democrats who are way more centrist than they used to be, are gonna be kind of, they're almost like the old GOP.
Right. And then that would leave space for a way more leftist party, which I don't think is going to happen because you can't get the corporate money that you need these days in politics. [00:32:00] But in my dreams, there would be a new, more progressive party. The Republicans wouldn't exist. And the Democrats would be considered the right wingers.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, Liz Cheney says that there needs to be a new conservative party that they're going to have to build one. The Republican brand is, I think she's right
Dan St Paul: about that. How can you, how can you rehabilitate it?
Host Brian Copeland: Well, you know, they were, they were, were McCarthy is in, in, in the fifties. And, and, uh, the image was rehabilitated.
So anything can happen. People, you got to remember people have short memories. Yeah. I mean, I, I was looking at a video just to just, you know, uh, kind of a real quick here, refresh your memory. And it was started on day one where Sean Spicer is saying that there was the most people at that inauguration and in any history and all the stuff we forgot.
And it just went thing by thing, by thing, by thing, by thing, him shoving other world leaders out of the way so he can't, all that stuff. We forgot all that stuff. You know. I didn't forget [00:33:00] then. Yeah. Oh, there's stuff you forgot. There's no way you could remember it all.
Tony Camin: I
Host Brian Copeland: forgot a lot of stuff,
Tony Camin: but I didn't forget January 6th, which is crazy because on January 7th, how many people were like, well, Trump's done, that's it.
Yeah,
Tony Camin: this is the thing. And he didn't like, it's just like, it's a, it's a, it's like, you know, you see, and it's overused to see like, oh, Hitler, but to see someone so nationalist that people just throw, you know, it's on the roofs of houses in my wife's in Wisconsin, Trump, you know, like, I never saw any of that before.
Like the, the, the, the cultism of this, of this guy. You know, it's crazy. It,
Dan St Paul: it, uh, well, I was reading just something today about people like that. People who are demagogues, who are, yeah.
Mm-Hmm. , that's the word. They
Dan St Paul: attract people who would like to be, be them or people who are like them. People who are forceful in nature.
People who are, uh, you know, they're the leader of the family. They make all the decisions. They, they. They [00:34:00] attract, he attracts people like that. So you got the macho Latino vote, right? You know, uh, the macho
Tony Camin: everything vote.
Dan St Paul: Yeah, exactly. Every, every, every macho guy thinks he's cool. Right. Because that's
Ngaio Bealum: all it's, it's so fear based.
Yeah, it's just fear based and they're, they're putting their fears on, on people who aren't the problem
Tony Camin: and it's also, you should
Ngaio Bealum: be afraid of these crazy ass giant corporations who, who pretty much are trying to force America into even more of an oligarchy than it already is.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Well, they, they, I, I saw an MOS that man on the street thing they did with, uh, with the, uh, a bunch of Republicans who are waiting to go in a bunch of maggots.
I'm going to say Republicans because I know lots of Republicans who are not MAGA, but a bunch of men getting ready. Yeah, I do. Who are getting ready to go. Are they
Ngaio Bealum: still
Host Brian Copeland: supporting Trump? Um, most of, no, not the Republicans, but I know some who are not. Are they going to vote for Kamala Harris? Uh, they're going to [00:35:00] say, here's the thing that they want to, they'll say they're going to, they're not going to vote for Trump.
They'll write somebody else. They'll write me in Mickey mouse or something, but yeah,
Ngaio Bealum: California. But if you live in a swing state dog, don't muck about. If you live in, in, in, uh, Georgia or Arizona or Michigan or Wisconsin, don't be fooling around. Don't be fooling around. Get it together. Georgia
Host Brian Copeland: was in, this brings me to another story that I had today.
Um, uh, there was a guy who, who, uh, met, was born in Mississippi and, uh, moved to, to Georgia and lived in Georgia for several decades, built a business. It was very successful. Um, because of hurricane or something, he recently, like in the last couple of weeks has moved back to Mississippi, bought property there and just, that's where he's going to retire and come to find out because he had committed some felonies in Mississippi, felonies that he went to jail, born, you know, served a sentence and was over before he moved [00:36:00] 40 years ago.
He's banned for life from voting. And apparently there are 11 states in this country where if you are convicted of a felony, you cannot vote for the rest of your life. I think it's just ridiculous. Well, that's what, that's part of that. That's what my understanding is, is where it came from is because of the incarceration of black people.
It's another way to keep, make sure that the black vote is suppressed.
Tony Camin: What's even the logic behind that? Like, I don't know, I don't know the logic is
Ngaio Bealum: keeping black people from voting. First, we're going to throw them all in jail for felonies. And then when they get out, we're going to keep them from having a voice.
That is the reason
Tony Camin: this is, I mean, what's their stated reason for it?
Ngaio Bealum: I don't know. Criminal. You don't get to vote, but that's going to say I've
Tony Camin: served my time, right?
Ngaio Bealum: Right. You expect shit to make sense.
Tony Camin: If we
Ngaio Bealum: expecting logic and reason and science to carry the day, we would not have these [00:37:00] problems, especially in the southeastern
Dan St Paul: part of this country.
Ngaio Bealum: We would not have these problems if we expected if, if, if science and logic and reason were actually things we. Paid attention to and things we went by. We would not have these problems.
Dan St Paul: We,
Ngaio Bealum: we, we like greed. We like power. You understand? We like racism with a little sexism on the side or sexism with a little racism on the side.
They're kind of intertwined a lot of ways. These are the things that we allow to control us. And these are the things that cloud our judgment collectively as a country. Right. So what's the solution? That's what we have to work on. All right. So what's the solution?
Dan St Paul: More white immigrants. That's what we need.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, he's, you know, he said that at a rally, uh, like yesterday, the day before yesterday, he was going on and on and on about, I'm talking about Trump. It was a rally or a speech or something where he was on one of these tangents. Yeah. Praising the people of Norway and Denmark and saying that [00:38:00] they should immigrate here.
And then in the next breath going on, healthcare about the danger of people from the Congo. He was talking about the danger of people from the Congo coming here. Uh, but people from when we need more people from like Norway,
Ngaio Bealum: freaking Norwegians want to live in America. First of all, it's not old enough.
Hell no. I want to move there.
Tony Camin: How could you be undecided? That's my, I don't
Host Brian Copeland: understand that. That is my number one question. It's not like there's so much overlap that you got it. You're looking for new ones. It's not
Tony Camin: like, well, they both have good policy. So yes,
Host Brian Copeland: yes. How can you not know? I mean, that makes no sense to me at all.
Tony Camin: Crazy. It's just, you won't
Ngaio Bealum: let go of your racism and your sexism. The whole reason Trump became president was because Barack Obama did a good job and everybody was like, well, if a Uh, college educated black man can do a job like this than any random white dude off the street. In some ways, somebody pointed out, I [00:39:00] can't remember who it was.
In some ways, it is the American dream. When they say that anybody can be president, Trump freaking proved it. Right. Anybody can just show up. Well, he doesn't mean to be good at it.
Host Brian Copeland: Anybody who inherited 400 million, but see, here's what you're overlooking though. When you say that is that there were, and this is something else I don't get.
There were people who voted for Obama twice and then voted for Trump. Yeah. Because you said the same direction. Because of the sexism. So that's the reason why? Because of the sex,
Ngaio Bealum: because of the sexist side of the racism to like, Oh, listen, we, we, the black man did it. We can't have a black man. And then a woman.
We have to have a black man, then a white guy, and then maybe a few more white guys. And then maybe we can think about a woman 50 years from now, 50,
Host Brian Copeland: 52 percent of white women voted for Donald Trump in 2016, 52 percent of white women after the, at them, the grab them from the who, how video came out, audio came out, right.
He [00:40:00] turned around. And they, they, they, they voted and, and when you talk to them and you hear interviews with them, they say, well, yeah, cause they'll get asked, well, didn't you want to see a woman? Wouldn't you like to see a woman? Yeah, but not that woman. That's always the excuse.
Tony Camin: Yeah. Well, you know what?
There are, there have been, I don't know if you heard, but there have been calls, uh, for, uh, for Trump to, to step down from the human race. So hopefully,
you know, Oh yeah.
Tony Camin: Is
Ngaio Bealum: there
Tony Camin: a
Ngaio Bealum: petition? Cause I'll
Tony Camin: sign that his family members are whispering, you know.
Host Brian Copeland: All right, let's move on. And in other news, some news that I'm quite frankly, glad to hear, um, according to, um, the investment giant fidelity, um, the value of Twitter now known as X, uh, has dropped by 80%.
Since Elon Musk bought it, it's worth 80 percent less than it was on the day that he purchased it. The reason is, is [00:41:00] because advertisers do not want to be associated with the hate speech and with misinformation. So that's why 80% Uh, it's it's dropped and I'm curious between, you know, between the 3 of you, have you in any way, shape or form change or curtailed your, your, your, your Twitter participation since Musk has owned it?
Dan St Paul: I have not, I was not an avid, uh, Twitter, uh, guy before, although I was in, I was, I looked at it more often. Ever since must took over. I went to Threads. Mm-Hmm. . And I seldom look at Twitter unless it's a, a link from something else I'm reading that takes me there to watch a video. I, I, I, I never go on.
Host Brian Copeland: So you don't have an account?
You have, there's, there's, there's, I
Dan St Paul: do have an account, but I never use it. I never, it's still there, I suppose. I don't know. And after
Host Brian Copeland: what you just said is not good, I don't care. It's gone now. I don't care. I mean, talk about
Dan St Paul: a [00:42:00] racist. You know, uh, Elon Musk, for God's sake.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, there are people I was reading that people are, you know, I talked about this last week that, uh, there are people in Beverly Hills who are dumping their Tesla's and, you know, who are walking away from leases.
I mean, it's like, once he started opening his mouth, um, he alienated a lot of people, you know, especially, you know, when you had him in trouble on, on, on, on Twitter, uh, you laughing about union busting. Yeah,
Dan St Paul: exactly.
Tony Camin: I think like, like in Gaia said about how the power corrupts, it's interesting to see it, watch Elon Musk and how it happens to him, you know, how it didn't just corrupt him maybe commercially, but just his mental is, you know, his like state where he's, he started to do these good things for man, medical devices and mining things.
And then his opinion, he just thinks more of his opinion and he buys Twitter and then he. He kind of does it like a lot of these white, rich guys, they start veering right, who have somewhat of a, of a format, you know, it started veering right because they're rich white guys. That's what you
Ngaio Bealum: mean. The emerald mine air [00:43:00] from South Africa.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just an era, South Africa, still harbors some racist sentiment.
Tony Camin: Yeah. He did take that money and want to do good. So he was medical devices and he did develop some stuff and he did do some drilling things that we, you know, we even use that were, you know, Apparently good, but then he just started going.
You can just see him. Oh, electric car. That's good for the environment. And then his opinion started getting out there. And then you're just like, oh, even these smart guys power corrupts and he just like, he just became like, his thoughts became so important and they're, you know. And you can just see it just go downhill as he
Host Brian Copeland: but has it really corrupted or has it just been that he's now opening his mouth because that's a good yeah because you didn't hear like I was watching I was watching the big bang theory uh the the other day rerun of the big not rerun a that's the show my age uh I was watching on max uh from maybe 10 years ago And there is a Thanksgiving episode where he does a cameo where he plays himself and he's working at a soup kitchen, you know, for Thanksgiving.
Cause that's how he gets, [00:44:00] cause that's how he gets back. I remember seeing it when it first came out and it was just like, Oh, wow. You know, cause we looked at him in such a different way, but you didn't hear much from him. That was the whole thing. I didn't know what he believed. I didn't know what he thought.
I mean, you know, he had this reputation for being a genius and being an innovator and all this other stuff. And then, you know, once it's, it is better to keep your mouth shut, you know, quite frankly, in a lot of cases, because people do not look at it positively.
Ngaio Bealum: I firmly believe, and I cannot prove this, but I firmly believe that he bought Twitter at the behest, like him and some of his richer cronies, because they definitely overpaid for it.
And think about Twitter. I'm chronically online. I'm on Twitter. Way more than I should be probably, but the thing that I've always enjoyed about Twitter is it's, it's a global frequency, right? So whenever something pops off in the world, somebody is there, somebody on Twitter is there. So you get a live firsthand report.
You get a bunch of live firsthand reports from a [00:45:00] bunch of different people, from journalists, from scientists. From just some random dude on the street who's doing it. Twitter was also a great tool. If you remember the Ferguson protest, if you remember the Black Lives Matter protest? Mm-Hmm. in 2020, all that stuff.
Air Spring, we found out about Air Spring. That was the first. Twitter was a great progressive anti-authoritarian organizing tool. Right, right. He bought it him in the Saudis because the Saudis owned him a lot of money and I'm pretty sure a few Russians on the money to they didn't buy Twitter to make Twitter better.
They bought Twitter to make Twitter worse than make it harder to use as an organizing and a community building tool. Okay. So why hasn't threads caught on Facebook? Because Facebook is bullshit. When you can thread the zone by Facebook, those guys sensor everything, not sensor everything, but you can't, you can't post pictures of weed on threads.
You can't post all your other things and you can't post crazy, uh, community uprisings and things that are going on around the world on [00:46:00] threads. Threads is, is, is juvenile. It's it's surface level. Twitter. We used to get deep. People used to get deep on Twitter. We get into big, giant conversations and have all kinds of things about making the world better.
And now you can't do it. You go to your for you think, and it's all just right wingers populating your thing. I don't even want to talk to those guys. I follow a few right wingers because I like to know what the other side is talking about. I can do a little research. But if you, they just made it, they've made it so hard to use and it's buggy now.
It's not, it's not as smooth as it used to be. And they did that on purpose. They did it on purpose. So you can't use it as an organizing tool. You know, I'm
Host Brian Copeland: curious, have any of you ever been on, cause I have not ever been on either truth social or, or, or 4chan a
Tony Camin: little bit. Yeah. Have
Host Brian Copeland: you, what's it like?
What did you see? Is it, is it crazy?
Tony Camin: Yeah, I had, I was a part of this Bay Area group called, uh, [00:47:00] bay, I don't know, so I should say weaponized soccer moms. They were Facebook and they were kind of conspiracy theorists. ,
Host Brian Copeland: right? Weaponized soccer moms.
Tony Camin: Yeah. And there was some lady outta Marin, you know, and they were just questioning it.
It came kinda out of Pizzagate, but a lot of 'em were reasonable. Like, well, it didn't turn out to be any, you know, okay. This guy shot him up and there was nothing there. But then there was like, some of 'em, like, well, was there, you know, it kept kind of going. And, uh, then Q popped up, Q went on and they got all into Q, this whole thing.
So they would talk about portions. So I would go over there and look, yeah, it's just, it was just great. It's just the worst stuff. It's just like, you're like, Whoa. You
Host Brian Copeland: remember anything specifically?
Tony Camin: You could, there was stuff like Child Tom Hanks is a pedophile. Yeah. The worst. The worst. That's, that was even on normal.
That's just on normal. That was on Twitter.
Host Brian Copeland: That was . You know, all the
Tony Camin: Andrew Canone, uh uh, adrenochrome. And yeah, that, uh, Hillary Clinton drinks baby blood. Everything that you
Ngaio Bealum: hear Roseanne [00:48:00] Barr say, that was a lie. The audio of,
Tony Camin: uh, Podesta attacking a child, uh, you know, some audiophile, but it's just like, I'm gonna get you, kid, you know, whatever.
Just the craziest, and I, and I, I was just like, do people, do these people believe this or is this just misinformation? It's because it's so crazy, you know?
Dan St Paul: Yeah, it's, it's amazing how crazy people are out there that we didn't know about before, but suddenly we know about them now. It's
Tony Camin: easy to be crazy behind the screen and just do these mean things, but I'm like, are these my neighbors?
Are these people I see in the market? People are just saying these insane things.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah, well, the thing that's frightening about it is, is, is just that how, how easy it is to get that mob after you, you know, to get, and because if they decide that they're going to come after you, um, I mean, I know, I know someone and I'm not going to go into it, but I know someone who's just being completely smeared, completely smeared.
On, on, on Twitter, on Facebook, there, there are [00:49:00] podcasts that are devoted, not podcasts, but YouTube shows that are, that have tens of thousands of followers that are all designed specifically to smear this individual. No, no, it's not somebody famous, that's the thing. Oh, it's, it's not somebody, it's not somebody famous.
And if I, if I mention it, everyone will go look at it. And I don't want to give, I don't wanna give these assholes clicks. Um, but, but it's just, you know, um, Lori K. Martin got doxed, you know? I didn't know that. Did you know that she got doxed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony Camin: What? I think it was a joke that
Host Brian Copeland: she said, what was the joke?
She said, I wanna have a re, I wanna have a Republican get pregnant or Republican just so
Tony Camin: I can abor or whatever. It was the whole point of the, it was a joke. And then Hannity said. Who comes up with it, you know, you can't come up with this stuff. It's like she literally did because it was a joke
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah,
Tony Camin: right,
Ngaio Bealum: right.
She literally did come up with
Tony Camin: yeah
Host Brian Copeland: Creation how bad did it get? I mean were there that she was she worried about security? Did she get? Yeah, she got
Tony Camin: like shit. She got docs. She got a flood of [00:50:00] stuff Um, she's pretty tough. So I don't I think I think she took it in stride, you know Seriously, but didn't let her get her down.
She just I mean, she's a real trooper. She digs in deep, like, you know, her and the guy, they'll, they'll engage in these, uh, you know, back and forth with people. I'm just like, they're for the grace of God, you know, thank you for doing that. Because I am such a slow typist and there's so
much,
Tony Camin: I'm still one finger, you know, and they say everything I could have said it better.
So I do appreciate that there's people on the front lines. I'll send
Ngaio Bealum: you an invoice, Tony.
Tony Camin: thank you, It's work, you know, and you, like Laurie does amazing stuff, but you know, like you said, all this Hannity blowback where she was, like, you get the, when some community against you and you, there's such a, you know, online now, it's community, everybody.
It's one of those
Ngaio Bealum: things too. And I know we kind of closed this JD Vance conversation down, but the stochastic terrorism, uh, from, from Springfield, Ohio, when they're like, Oh, well, all [00:51:00] the immigrants in our Ohio, they're taking everybody's job and they're causing crime and all this stuff. And all of a sudden now you got bomb threats.
All right. Now you got to close the schools. Now the guy who was hiring the immigrants, you got to close the hospitals. You got to close the, the guy, the guy who was hiring a bunch of immigrants who, and who invited people like, cause his business was dying and the immigrant showed up and saved his business.
He voted for Trump twice. And now they're bomb threatening his thing and now they're coming after him. It's right. He's supposed to be on their side. They're supposed to be on his side. Yeah, no, but no.
Dan St Paul: So same thing in Arlington. Remember the woman who stopped Trump trying to stop Trump from having that photo op at Ireland, Arlington, her name.
Yes. Oh, yeah. Get that blowback.
Ngaio Bealum: Yeah. You don't want the, you don't want the problem.
Dan St Paul: That's a form of power in itself that, you know, you're allowed to do things because people are afraid to say no.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I mean, I was thinking about there's, there's, you know, um, I'm, [00:52:00] I'm, I'm doing this, this, this, um, political show I did for, I did four years ago called the great American shit show.
And it's monologues on life in the age of Trump, and I brought it back. I thought I was done. I would never have to do it again, but I brought it back. And one of the things I talk about is what's happened to all of the women over the course of the last four years who have come forward. E. J. and Carol won that multi million dollar defamation suit, but she's in hiding.
Because of all of the, of, of the, the, the Twitter mob, uh, who are out to get her and they doxed her and everything else, you know, Stormy Daniels is getting tens of thousands of emails, texts, tweets, you name it, threatening to rape and kill her and her 13 year old daughter. You know, so it's like any woman, you know, who's the next woman who's going to, who's going to come forward.
No one's, Christine Blasey Ford, you know, you, you, you got Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme U. S. Supreme court. She and her family are practicing practically a witness protection, [00:53:00] you know, because of again, the mob. So, so who's ever going to open their mouth. Uh, about, about how they were treated, uh, by anyone who's associated with that and that kind of intimidation works.
And that's scary. Yeah, that's really scary. And there's no way to regulate it. There's no way to regulate it. So w what, you know, so there's no solution. It's just something we got to live with. And it only seems to be
Tony Camin: coming from one side, you know,
Host Brian Copeland: It really does. Well, no, they don't. No, Trump got shot because of rhetoric from the left.
Ngaio Bealum: That's what they say. Uh, he got shot at by a right winger, and then he didn't get shot at, he got stalked by some dude who was just objectively having a hard time. He got dinged by a nut job. He didn't, first of all, first of all, he did not get shot. He got shot at.
Dan St Paul: Right.
Ngaio Bealum: There's a difference, right? He was not shot.
He was not shot in the ear. I don't know where that fake blood came from.
Host Brian Copeland: See, that's the [00:54:00] thing too, because I mean, I, you know, I can't speak to the rest. I can't, I can't probably, I guess dad, but I was a little kid and remember when Martin Luther King got shot. I remember when, when Bobby Kennedy got shot.
I remember when, when Ronald Reagan got shot and you had. X ray is on the six o'clock news and a doctor explaining exactly what happened, exactly what the damage was. Here's what the treatment was. None of that, none of that, none of that here. So, so if he was at, you know, so I don't, I don't, I'm not going to jump in this conspiracy and say that, no, he wasn't a child.
I'm just saying is it's different from everything that I've ever seen in my life when a politician got shot.
Dan St Paul: Yeah.
Tony Camin: Yeah. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy either, but there'll probably be about two more attempts before the election.
Ngaio Bealum: What's the overrunner? What's the overrunner? If Pete Rose is here, he can give us an overrunner.
Host Brian Copeland: Yeah. Rest in peace, Pete Rose. And now the Secret Service will be knocking on your door because of what you just said. [00:55:00] Speaking of which, do you watch this show, Brian? Everybody watches the show. Um, I was reading the thing about Kathy Griffin finally feels like she's coming back and, and I was just really surprised.
Well, were you surprised what, what happened to her? You know, how she basically got blackballed because of that picture. I mean, it was, it was in poor taste, but in the secret service, knocking on the door, that wasn't a, that, that constitutes a death threat. Yeah,
Dan St Paul: he's got a show coming up in San Francisco, and this is probably the best place to start again with regards to what happened to her.
Ngaio Bealum: The Secret Service is paid to take things way too seriously. So I don't really have a problem with them visiting her after that. They're kind of supposed to. I mean, you're not really.
I don't
Ngaio Bealum: think she was in any danger, but they have to they have to be. If someone says some shit like that or posts a picture like that, that is their job to show up and be like, Hey, hey, hey, chill out homie.
And can, [00:56:00] and you can't
Host Brian Copeland: and you can't go, okay, well, you know, she's a celebrity. You don't have to worry. 'cause John Wilkes Booth was a celebrity. Mm. People don't realize that.
Tony Camin: Um, they visited Ted Nugent too when he brought out some and said, suck on this Obama, Michelle. So yeah, they visited, so they take that stuff seriously.
Mm-Hmm. . But I, I thought just co career-wise, she was over vilified. I mean, same with the guy in tenacious Steve, just make a joke. To your own base, you know, or whatever. And then people like, Oh, she wants to kill the president. You know, I think, I think that, and then the same people like scream free speech.
So I think it's such a
Ngaio Bealum: BS,
Tony Camin: you know, well,
Ngaio Bealum: here's the thing. Free speech is great. Uh, it does not mean consequence free speech as a cannabis activist for 30 years. And I feel like it definitely was slightly detrimental to my comedy career because I was very vocal on social justice and you were very, very high and could remember your material.
I know my jokes. I know your jokes. I could probably do dance jokes from [00:57:00] 1987. My memory is freaking great
And
Tony Camin: all these him friendly countries you're like an ambassador you're like your spokesman so it paid off in the big game But now they
Ngaio Bealum: want a young guy
Tony Camin: You gotta drink some of that blood of the young, the Democrats have it
Host Brian Copeland: at the pizza parlor where all kids are, are
Tony Camin: being pizza. I'll give, I'll, I'll dox the address.
Ngaio Bealum: I just smoke weed, you guys. I don't, I don't. To the other drugs from the adrenal g.
Tony Camin: Nature's kale. Marijuana.
Host Brian Copeland: Okay, another big, big story this morning.
Um, more than 100 men and men and women are expected to have obtained counsel and are expected to pursue new allegations and civil action against Diddy.
For
Host Brian Copeland: a number of things, [00:58:00] uh, including violent sexual assault or rape, sexual abuse, facilitating sex, sex with controlled substances, false imprisonment, compelling prostitution, sexual misconduct, dissemination of video recordings, and sexual abuse of minors.
In the disposal of a flag.
Dan St Paul: I'm, I'm blaming, uh, Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein because Once he found out about them, he said, hell, I got to up my game.
Ngaio Bealum: Anything you can do, I can do better. I can do anything better than you.
Host Brian Copeland: What's amazing to me is you have all of these celebrities who are now backing away from him, who you you're finding out we're at these parties.
I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio talks about have a minute at one of the parties. Uh, uh, uh, Usher lived with him. I guess Usher lived with him for a while. It was a number of the parties. They asked Usher, would you let your teenage son go to one of, one of, one of his parties? He goes, hell no. You know, I can't talk about what happened.
Ngaio Bealum: Justin Bieber still got [00:59:00] PTSD from it, right? Justin Bieber. No, no. Justin Bieber was under Puffy's wing for a little while too. Like there's, the dude is pernicious. All right.
Host Brian Copeland: So here's my question. And this went on and to the extent with which it went on and how many people were involved, both as victims, people who were trafficked.
Oh, and I'm going to say allegedly has been convicted of anything yet, but come on, but it was 120 people. Come on. Yeah. But, but, you know, but maybe again, maybe, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio is one of the biggest stars in the world. How could all these, these people be involved in this or know about this stuff?
Even if they weren't involved, they still knew about it. And, and nobody. Say
Ngaio Bealum: anything blackmail and violence. We got you on videotape doing this freaky ass shit. So if you come up to us and try to start something, we're just going to start releasing things. Also, uh, he's alleged to have been the impetus behind the Tupac problems.
Uh, puff daddy is also alleged to have blown up Wiz Khalifa's car as a direct threat to some things. Wiz Khalifa [01:00:00] talks about it. He doesn't bring it up much anymore. Uh, the guy had enough money to have you disappeared. So you could bring it up. Like you could be like, Hey man, this is not cool. I'm going to the press and be like, well, you can go to the press one time.
And then your face is going to be on a wall and we're going to be having car washes to pay for your funeral. So, uh, like what do you want to do about it? It's hard to do. And so now that everybody's kind of teamed up, a couple of people broke the dam and now everybody showed up like, yeah, man, he did this shit to me too.
Yeah. He did this to me too. And that's it. Then that's how it goes, man. You can get away with things only for so long. Like Bill Cosby got away with things for 40 years, Catholic church,
Tony Camin: Catholic church, the Southern
Ngaio Bealum: Baptist congregation is still getting away with a bunch of things. The Jehovah's witnesses get the more, don't get me started.
Like people get away with it. Yeah. For a long time because they have money and power and they can make problems and people disappear. You seen that?
Challenges seen, right? Mm-Hmm. .
Host Brian Copeland: Have you seen that documentary on, uh, on Netflix? And I'll, I'll preface this by saying that I'm a [01:01:00] Catholic and I'm a practicing Catholic.
Mm-Hmm. to this day. Mm-Hmm. Uh, but there was a, uh, and I can't I tell you the name of the documentary, so it was six months ago about a young girl. Uh, high school age who disappeared at the Vatican, like in the seventies or the eighties has disappeared. And, and they, there apparently has been some cover up that goes all the way up to the, you know, that every Pope has known what's happened to her, or if you bring it, you just have to go look it up, go to, go to Netflix and Google it.
So it's, it's with the documentaries, but apparently it's a very famous story. Cause I'd never heard of it before. Just want closure, closure. They just want to know what happened to our daughter. I'm
Dan St Paul: just surprised. It's a girl. That's the only thing that surprised.
Host Brian Copeland: I
Tony Camin: wonder if father Guido Sarducci is covering the story.
The Vatican newspaper,
Dan St Paul: observable Nepal, Romana. Yeah.
Tony Camin: Yeah.
Dan St Paul: Right. [01:02:00]
Tony Camin: Yeah, it's just one of
Dan St Paul: those things. I'm surprised you're so you're still, you still go to, you go to mass every Sunday?
Host Brian Copeland: No. Oh, you speak Latin? No, I never, that's before me. That's before I was post that. And when I, when I was coming out, it was, it was, it was when they were, you know, when masses were people with acoustic guitars singing songs from God's bill.
Yeah. I
Dan St Paul: had, I had to go to a funeral and a wedding a couple of weeks ago within three days of each other. And both of them were Catholic masses. And I, I, I felt that that's, that there should be a law that if you have to go to a mass, another mass within three days, you should get a, after the first one, you should get a get out of mass free card that you can show.
And then we'll meet, well, we'll meet you later over at the coffee shop or something like that. But I'm not going through this twice.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I will say, when I say I'm practicing May, maybe I'm, maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit. I, I did go frequently until the shutdown. And I, I have not, I, you know, I've been Ash [01:03:00] Wednesday to get my ashes and stuff like that since then, but you don't need to
Tony Camin: practice anymore.
Maybe you're good at it.
Host Brian Copeland: I've got it down. I've got it down. Well, I thought about, you know, my whole thing was that, that, that entire religion was basically a spreader of it. You know, you walk, you walk in, you stick your hands in water that everybody else has had their hands in. Then you put it on your face, then you go on and you're squeezing a pew and everybody's singing and you're next to each other.
Then there's a sign of peace, you're shaking hands and then you get somebody touching something that they're putting in your mouth. I mean, it was a spreader event, you know, so that I was kind of freaked out even once they opened it up. Coffee throws different kinds of spreader events. All right, here's, here's a story that I like that I'm, I'm going to throw out, um, because I'm, I'm, I'm just curious as to how ethical you gentlemen are.
Tony Camin: I got a glitch in my thing.
Host Brian Copeland: Elderly Vietnamese woman. in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, elderly, uh, [01:04:00] in her eighties, I believe, doesn't trust banks. So she carries her life savings with her in an envelope everywhere she goes. It's 12, 000 that she carries around in an envelope. Uh, and she's, the plan is to eventually use that money to help her children and her grandchildren.
So one day she's out running errands, doing things and loses it. The, the, the, the envelope disappears and she's freaked out and she's panicked. And so she eventually, she retraces her steps. She goes back to the grocery store where she'd been earlier that day, some supermarket and the manager says, Oh yeah, you're, you, I guess, drop this in the parking lot and somebody turned it in a gentleman turned it in because he wanted to make sure that it went back to its rightful owner and of the 12 grand, not a penny was missing.
Now, the set was missing. Now, my question is this, if you were walking through a, the parking lot of, you know, Safeway, Lucky's, wherever, and you [01:05:00] found an envelope with no identification, no name, nothing on it, just the white envelope, open it up, and there's 12 grand in cash in it, what would you do?
Dan St Paul: I would turn it in.
If it was just loose cash, you know, without the envelope, just cash on the street, that's one thing. But the fact that somebody actually put it all in an envelope means it belongs to somebody.
I do what they did, you
Host Brian Copeland: know, so if it was a loose cash, it wouldn't belong to somebody.
Dan St Paul: Well, I feel like somebody, but there's no way, you know, you see a 50 bill on the floor and there's nobody around. You're going to pick it up and go, well, here's free, free 50 bill. But if you, if it's in an envelope and you're in the parking lot of a supermarket, if it's 12, 000, you're for sure going to go back in and say, Hey, listen, somebody must've dropped this because they took, I would go back in and be
Ngaio Bealum: like, somebody dropped this 10, 000.
Yeah, I think I
Ngaio Bealum: found 10, 000 in the parking lot, so I'm, I'm turning it back [01:06:00] in. I
Tony Camin: think that
Ngaio Bealum: makes it like Christian thing.
Tony Camin: It's in the bag. You go to the manager and, but also you under stipulate, I'd be very clear, you know, if no one claims it in a couple of weeks. Yeah, somebody's going
Host Brian Copeland: to claim it unless it's drug money or something.
Ngaio Bealum: Yeah,
Tony Camin: but there's, you know, like
Ngaio Bealum: if I found a briefcase with 100, 000, I would probably turn that in faster because I don't want the mafia after me than if I found an envelope. True 10, 000. But yeah, no, no, really I found 10, 000. I found 10, 000 in the parking lot Here you go because you want to find your feet and i'm broke man And these cats don't always like you know, you do the right thing.
They don't break you off 10. They don't give you a chunk
Host Brian Copeland: She never met the man who turned it in doesn't know his name so she can't give a reward Did she even
Ngaio Bealum: try to offer they're like hey man come forward. I got I got 500 and some cookies for you Well, she said, thank [01:07:00] you. Just that, you know, that's all the money she had in the world.
Yeah, right. So I found 10, 000 in the parking lot. I'm not trying to front, I'm an
Tony Camin: American. I wonder how many times, um, that bag isn't going to
Ngaio Bealum: be like, yeah, did you drop 8, 000 for you right here?
Dan St Paul: I swore there were 6,
Tony Camin: 000. This is a, this is a nice story, but I wonder how many times the bag isn't turned in when one is found, you know, like, is this like,
Ngaio Bealum: listen, some people would be like, Hey dude, you found 12, 000.
Don't block your blessings.
Tony Camin: I just wondered how the universe is trying to hook
Ngaio Bealum: you up.
Tony Camin: If this happens a thousand times, one time, this, this lady does it, it's, you know, it's done the right, the right thing is done just in human nature.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, it reminds me of a story. Like my grandma told me, my grandma was a single mother who raised my mother all by herself and, uh, and she worked at a cleaners.
back in maybe the 60s. She spent 15 years working, pressing clothes on the cleaners. [01:08:00] And there was just a period of time. There was like a week or a weekend or something coming up. And she was broke. I mean, completely broke and wondering how she's going to feed my mom.
And
Host Brian Copeland: she was pressing a, a, a sport coat or something and she flipped it over and there was a hundred dollar bill.
And, uh, and that's exactly it. She looked at it and said that that was a blessing from God because of the fact that, you know, she was able to feed my mother, you know, she was able to feed my mother and buy milk and stuff over the weekend because somebody left a hundred dollar bill. Now, you know, I don't know what the, what, what are the ethics of that?
I mean, you know, whose code it is because it's, you know, it's, it's at the cleaners and it's, you know, who it belongs to. I mean, what are the, what are the ethics of that? I
Ngaio Bealum: mean, one time I was out of weed.
There's a, there's
Ngaio Bealum: a point to the story. I mean, when actually Washington, I'm out of weed and I was like, Hey universe, I [01:09:00] need some weed.
This is back in the nineties, back when you couldn't just find weed in small towns, it wasn't legal in Washington. And then walking back after the show, walking back to the hotel, walking up the step, there was a bag of weed on the stairs, right? So I took half of it and left the other half because the person's going to come back.
And I figured you'd come back to have a bag of weed. But then, okay. So like a year later, I had gone to Portland to get my favorite weed from one of these dudes and I'm driving back and I went to this restaurant and I left my backpack in the restaurant, right? And then I came back and I was like, Hey, where's my backpack?
And they're like, it was right here. And half the weed was in there. And I was like, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair, right? Half the weed, like, I took half the weed, that other guy, this guy took half my weed. That's my fault for leaving, for leaving my 12, 000 or for leaving my backpack. That's how, that's how good
Tony Camin: the weed is.
You're gonna leave your fucking weed. That's how good the weed
Ngaio Bealum: is. Dude, that Portland weed was crazy. That dude retired. He would harvest twice a year. I think I even remember you telling me
Tony Camin: about him back in the day. You probably, You were making some special trip. And I'm like, no. You're like, no. Holy Magic
Ngaio Bealum: Harvest dog.
We used to drive. Yeah, we used to. I used to drive 10 hours to [01:10:00] get that. That shit was so weird, you
Host Brian Copeland: know? And actually too, and that's
Ngaio Bealum: how I made friends. I sunk up the whole apartment building and made a .
Host Brian Copeland: Uh, I, I I, I, I wanna end this show with this, and I, I sitted them this last week. You made me think about this, about, about three weeks ago.
Um, a, a comic we came up with in, in the eighties, Perry Kurtz. Perry Kurtz was, was, uh, was killed in Los Angeles, um, after a gig, got hit by a hit and run driver. And I guess they caught him, he was an 18 year old kid, and I guess they caught him. And what made me think about Perry was that Perry made a lot more money smelling, uh, selling weed than he did telling jokes.
Yeah. Because that was the whole thing about Perry Kurtz in the 80s is that he got popped from Mars. Um, that's it. That was the first thing I ever heard about pretty good weed. I'm not gonna lie. It was a, the Harry Furch used to get pot from Mars, but um, anyway, he, you know, he, his, uh, remember that love connection thing?
He has a lot of love. Can I
Ngaio Bealum: show
Host Brian Copeland: Shoshana? He would show
Ngaio Bealum: that deal, [01:11:00] by the way,
Dan St Paul: he would show that VHS tape. Right.
Tony Camin: Who could forget the Perry cycle? Huh? He pull up the Holy city zoo on the Perry side. Give you a long typed out intro on a 3x5 card. X! Pause. Pause. Don't tell you where to pause. Pause. Stripper.
Ngaio Bealum: Pause.
Host Brian Copeland: Well, I guess he started in strip clubs. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, he
Ngaio Bealum: did.
Host Brian Copeland: And he used to, he used to host the, uh, the exotic erotic Halloween ball. Yeah. Yeah. That was a
Tony Camin: big deal back in the day. It was a
Host Brian Copeland: big deal back in
Tony Camin: the
Host Brian Copeland: day. I was 18 years old and when he was at EMC and got me in when I was 18 years old and I saw some stuff I'd never seen Yeah.
Tony Camin: Yeah. At that expo center, which held a lot of people just packed with like, You know, half naked people and Perry Kurtz.
Dan St Paul: It was half naked even when he was naked. All the erections went away as soon as he hit the stage.
Host Brian Copeland: In fact, that's where Diddy got the idea. [01:12:00] I wouldn't be surprised. Diddy Kurtz. All right, guys, we're out of time. Where's everybody planning? Gael, you were saying you got cops coming up? I do
Ngaio Bealum: have cops coming up November 1st and 2nd with Brian Fossane also, uh, October 18th and 19th.
I will be at the Deaf Puppy Comedy Club in Manteca, California. Shout out to Chris Teixeira, uh, a comedian who opened a club and we always try to support that sort of thing. That's right. And then, uh, the week after that, which is the 25th and 26th, I will be at Chadwick's in Medford, Oregon. Uh, have you got a, a website that people can go to to see where you're, uh, you can go to my Instagram.
It's got most of this stuff. Okay. Your probably you think 35 years in the biz. I would have a website, but I'm would really easy Listen, uh, if anybody knows how to use WordPress, call me up and offer me reasonable rates because, I mean, I have a site, I just don't put anything on it. Just go and find the WordPress UI to be difficult.
Host Brian Copeland: Fiber percent Just go on fiber. Go on fiber. You'll find somebody in Cambodia who, who, who will do it for you for like $19. That's oppressive. Not do good job. [01:13:00] That's impressive. You know, do a good job. Okay. I'll check it out. You know, so, okay, Dan, anything coming up?
Dan St Paul: Yeah, I'm going to be at the setup. Um, and that is, uh, and I'm looking it up right now in the city, uh, on October.
25th. That's
Host Brian Copeland: in San Francisco.
Dan St Paul: That's in San Francisco at the Palace Theater down in, Oh, that's
Tony Camin: so fun. You're going to love it.
Dan St Paul: Yeah. I've never done it before.
Tony Camin: It's in a speakeasy and it's so fun. It's amazing. You're going to love it. It's a cool place. Awesome. It's underground San Francisco speakeasy.
You're going to have a great time.
Dan St Paul: That's where comedy should be, damn it.
Tony Camin: It's great.
Dan St Paul: Hotel Secrets, right? Uh, and I also will be at the Deaf Puppy, uh, Comedy Club in, uh, Manteca on, uh, Thanksgiving weekend. Oh, nice. And I encourage people to go to my substack, uh, danstpaul. substack. com and, uh, read my essays.
It's called, uh, Another Funny Thing About Aging. And, [01:14:00] uh, I've got about a hundred essays up there, which I've been writing. Oh, wow. Ever since covid. Yeah, so they're all between a hundred eight hundred thousand thousand words. Yeah, so Yeah, just awesome things. I had to do to get my yaya's out during the covid, right?
Host Brian Copeland: Right? Yeah That's why I wrote my novel during covid, right? I had nothing to do. I went crazy I was going that's where I fell
Ngaio Bealum: into a tailspin of depression and ate brisket three times a day That's
Tony Camin: where I got into q anon
Host Brian Copeland: Tony, where are you playing?
Tony Camin: I got a show coming at comedy at the greenery with pat mccoy from live 105.
Host Brian Copeland: Oh my god It's a name i've heard forever.
Tony Camin: Yeah, me neither, but he saw me at the orinda theater I hosted a competition afternoon, which was a lot of fun. A lot of a lot of funny people up there in the bay area
Yeah, yeah,
Tony Camin: and i'm with john lair and laura hayden and that's comedy at the greenery at the walnut creek Golf club or something like it's a fun gig and then [01:15:00] savage henry comedy festival on the weekend And here we go.
I did a thing in the Orinda
Host Brian Copeland: Theater once. Tell those guys I said hello.
Tony Camin: Oh, I will. I will.
Host Brian Copeland: It was an Orinda theater thing once like 10 or 15 years ago. And it was, it was, I don't think it only happened once. And it was something about honoring movie legends or something. They had me MC this thing and, uh, Mickey Rooney was there in a wheelchair and couldn't speak and they wheeled him up to get the award.
And then Chloris Leachman was there. Same kind of thing. And it was like all the, uh, uh, Luke Costello's daughter, you know, Boris Karloff's wife, or whoever
Tony Camin: was the oldest, they should, they should read your blog about aging. That sounds like you're
Ngaio Bealum: how to feel to be the young guy, Brian. Was that nice? Oh, it was great.
Let me help you up the stairs. I'm the young guy here. Wait a minute. I'm
Host Brian Copeland: 33. [01:16:00] My age range. 33. You and Jesus. You and you and Jesus. Uh, I'm going to throw my plug out. Uh, the, the, the, uh, the solo show that I mentioned, the great American shit show it is called, and it is a monologues on life in the age of Trump.
Uh, where it's, it's a combination of, of, of standup, of commentary and of therapy. Uh, as, as well as the point being to, to tell people to get out the boat. So I am at, uh, I'll be at the Martian Berkeley, uh, this third, it's I'm mostly doing on off nights. It's, it's a pop up. Uh, so I'm, I'm in Berkeley with it.
It's all over the Bay area. It's going to be at the Marin civic auditorium. Uh, if you want to see where, where the, the, the show is go to Brian Copeland. com and there's a link, uh, as well as a ticket links for, uh, for all the performances. So, uh, that's what I got coming up between now and do as many of these as I can between now and the election.
So, uh, with that in God, VLM, Dan, St. Paul, Tony, Kimmy, Tony, you're welcome back anytime. Okay. So it
Tony Camin: was a lot of fun, you guys. Thanks. I was all with some [01:17:00] great people. Something like that. So thanks.
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